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  • @Fnarrr Have you checked our wager?

  • ETC 2019 DL lists

    AlexCat - - Daemon Legions (DL)

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    Om nom nom

  • Quote from Furion: “Also the slots for cards are pretty epic. Tomorrow I plan to model them, spray them black and put some sand / detail on. ” Keep them coming, pictures.

  • Quote from arwaker: “Imho there is far too much of "the grass is greener" around ” I switched (back) to DL, mwahaha!

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Huh, weird point to pick on. I'd rate Shamanism as the best path currently. ” We all know, you're the weird one

  • Quote from jaith1: “between BoM, -1 cast, hereditary Spell and MotCT. SE are certainly missing something in this regard. ” ... add the choice of Paths.

  • Quote from jaith1: “I will retract my statement in saying I would be better off if I proxied as SE, but I am surprised how decent it seems at first glance. And this is doing so through the fundamentally flawed exercise of just taking my current hbe list and converting it to the roughly parallel SE variants. ” Well, you admitted yourself that the tradeoff SGRs for for hobos hurt. Look at the mages then. You might feel better about HBE at that point.

  • Which masters? DMP is one week away. A lot of Gremlins there, rejoice.

  • 6 Ghasts units, Black Coaches, some bloodknights or lurking Spawn advancing on you. Occultism with +6" . Better chaff. This is VC I'm talking about. I had quite a sour experience against them when I was still playng HBE.

  • Quote from Mandavar: “Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from jaith1: “ ” Mathematically, you're way ahead, especially with pyromaster. I comment only rosters and armies not your actual game.edit: but I must add, you are quite light on shooting. If your other units are not that good against DL that might explain your problems) ” @AlexCat, but what would be medium shooting in your opinion? I usually have similiar shooting, or Archers instead of SG. Another Elu Bow? ” I consider @Furion setup (28 sg + QC …

  • Quote from jaith1: “My army's ranged threats are 3 SGR, 20 SG, and a pyro. Its nice, but I didn't feel like I outshot him. My SGR's did fluff a bit more than average though. ” Mathematically, you're way ahead, especially with pyromaster. I comment only rosters and armies not your actual game. edit: but I must add, you are quite light on shooting. If your other units are not that good against DL that might explain your problems)

  • This is very weak DL army. You still shouldnt have troubles dealing with it. You still outshoot (and out range) him, have volley fire and he lacks speed and combat punch.

  • Ouch. Swordmasters too. Other bad news for DL, not so bad for WDG in my opinion) Core Sloth/Sugulag warriors, Forsaken star, chariots, there are so many ways to deal with them. But all those glass cannon elements... how are you dealing with ID, UD, VC, VS, OK. EOS, OG?

  • Well, may be your list aint that bad Though multiple QGs looks like a headache. But I honestly dont understand why WDG worry at all especially when you dont have the Sliver.

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Care to make a wager too? ” 4. Two of them I know, dont think Sweden will bring HBE this year too . P.S. As a DL player I do consider HBE a bad matcup. There is no army SG star shines more against.

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “But the two new books marking us as a dangerous opponent, while also being near the top of the poewr curve atm, is in my opinion the beginning of HbE coming back into the meta and into better positioning. ” 10 days remaining. Do you wanna bet? How many time will we see HBE in the 2019 ETC rosters of top16_2018 teams? Average is 8, your wager is?

  • ... and everybody should just shut up and discuss pink ponies rainbow unicorns to be implemented in FAB. Do you wannna this forum to die?

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Ah OK. I don't think that's the right word, so that threw me off. My point was, you can't use 2.1 as evidence that expert feedback isn't working well, because there is no evidence that 2.1 is worse than 2.0 from a balance perspective. I.e. whether the distance of 2.1 HbE is further from ideal than 2.0 HbE (in the opposite direction from ideal point). ” Sorry, if I used it wrong, didnt mean any offence. But your speaking of evidence proves what I meant. Was there any evidence …

  • I just meant your "it could have been worse" argument. Can be said just about anything, right? Thus, hypocrisy.

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “To be fair, you don't know how the hotfix turned out. Its entirely possible alternatives would have been worse. IMO the 2.0 design stage for HbE got well out of hand, and then pendulum swings happened. ” That's pure hypocrisy my friend)