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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    The captains fix an issue with the skrox, namely people killing the skrox before they swing. The captains at i6 tend to fix this issue by blending elves.(which the rest of the list does very well too) It's a very good skew list for teams. Don't think I'd take it to singles. Quote from marcema: “I think the skink captain spam is interesting. Because they are 16 s4 os5 attacks that cost as much as 15 TG. Besides that you can just split uo the unit and shooting hits are distributed evenly over the …

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Bobo: “Quote from Ipower: “Not sure about experience with the exact list as I'm still under 10 games with it even after the weekend but its shaping up to be a fun and balanced list. ” well, technically I'm sure you're right but c'mon, the framework hasn't changed in 2+ years. Thanks for the recaps. Always impresses me how you're somehow able to lift off entire portions of enemy army after losing big chunks of your own (mostly re: DH game, but I know I've read similar reports before..)…

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from marcema: “Is the list to be found somewhere? ” I couldn't possibly comment on that sort of thing (Hidden Content) Not sure about experience with the exact list as I'm still under 10 games with it even after the weekend but its shaping up to be a fun and balanced list. Game one Poor Darren got thrown under the SA bus. Unfortunate elves got shot and magiced to pieces apart from the mage in spear block who got trampled by a cowboy/taurosaur combo. Special note to the jungle swarms for ki…

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Bobo: “@Ipower A page or so ago you mentioned that UD were topping the UK scene but the climate shifted to bring them back in line. Quite curious about the details of this since the army seems to be such a brilliant all rounder. Jake tells me KOE have a strong pairing against them but I can't think of much else that gives them the willies - even VS matchup can go south very quickly methinks. People learned to bring Binding Scrolls and Flaming Banners, or is there more to it than that?…

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “Quote from marcema: “I guess SA has not been winning any major tournaments the past time. Especially knowing that anytime you play against UD you will lose instantly is a big issue. ” Elaborate?I had an impression Alpha makes this match-up significantly easier, but I haven't played with UD for a looong time now. ” Not really, I looked at taking the alpha solely for the UD match but came to the conclusion it hurts more than it helps for a few reasons - Divination - 99% o…

  • Logic of the army

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Pinktaco: “Out of the box thinking: What if totems weren't just a different shade of marks, but rather something that completely defines the role of a unit. The idea would be that we'd have very flexible Saurian units, i.e. one mark would allow Saurian units to be mounted, so we'd have "cheap" core cavalry and TGs to be mounted as raptor riders (this would of course demand a merge of raptor riders and TGs). Likewise the role of TGs could be carried over as a totem, allowing Saurians p…

  • Logic of the army

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from arwaker: “Quote from Cuendae: “The argument that SA players take skinks, so they must be well prized is so damn terrible as we have 2 choices- very expensive Elite unit (which I love) and quite cheap garbage meat. E.g. I play 2x 15 skinks but why? Because I want one big block of saurus with banner to hold my enemies units and I just need 3 scoring (not using caimans). So I take 2x 15 skinks, because I have to. ” You could take more Saurus instead of the Skinks. Why do you still take t…

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from marcema: “The tournament was quite off anyway, 0/36 Vermin Swarms, UD being unbeatable and barely any gunlines. ” I see a correlation here between lack of VS and dominance of UD... Seriously though that is a meta problem, it used to exist in UK also but people adapt and push UD back down. They are above par but not auto win above par or even close.

  • Logic of the army

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Scorbol: “Quote from Just_Flo: “Just spend a second to reflect yourself. Pretend that the project doesnt want to shaft SA. Pretend that the TT and the ACS are not totally stuipid. Pretend that we have played a few games with SA. Pretend that the status at the moment is the result of a process which brought those things there from partly higher prices. Pretend that the SA community already fought about or for your wishes. What reasons could there be for it being as it is? ” I am actual…

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    It is an interesting top 5 though. Compared to the UK only DL would line up(shocker they were massively over curve).

  • Logic of the army

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from illygion: “This thread is to discuss the logic of the army and the fact that they are some units that have rules and almost the same that don't have these rules, especially between characters and regular units. It just feels we need more fluff options in our book. ” I'll admit this was one of the design failings of the book. Not enough attention was paid to variety of choice.

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Sounds like you are basically playing a vc list. Tough grind with healing and snipes.

  • Logic of the army

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    So I can answer some questions here. Ramphodon mount. Yep he is straight up worse, he used to enable 1+ save flaptains but apparently armour is a strength for us only some of the time. Roar, +1ws, unit buffs in general. These all got purged after that asaw poll that saw buff wagons put as our weakness. They all got put under buff wagons effects and went bye bye. Priests on Pteradon, got vetod based on no fast cav wizards back when magic was still based on 8th Ed. Maybe could be looked at but dou…

  • Quote from marcema: “I think a 40-50p point drop would be necessary for people to consider it as well, but i just don't think they will decrease the orice with more than 10% ” Eh, I'd point to the new DL book and the most recent WDG update as examples that the current RT are more open to trying new things and big adjustments. I cant make any promises but the ACS will do what we can.

  • Cowboy talk

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    I have, its not.

  • Cowboy talk

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Traumdieb: “Soulfire weaver feels like someone put accidently an 1 for a 50 creating an 150. After all you dont get a token and spend a token. ” Funny, this was my initial reaction too...

  • Cowboy talk

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Essentially the Caiman and raptor prices are legacies from when they had access to better/cheaper gear. The gear got nerfed and they stayed the same cost. It's something we can ask to have looked at during the next price review after the summer, if that is what the community feels is the biggest issue.

  • Master of reality is something I'm keeping an eye on the DL sentinel for. Same ability on a similar pure caster with 4++. Currently master of reality should be dropping like a stone to keep up.

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Byryl: “So I am trying to understand how to play SA. I am having issues with the Cuatl and based on these results, TG is not essential for them. How do you run the Cuatl when opponents will direct attacks in CC vs them? I can't ever seem to avoid getting into combat. Play primarily vs. WDG and DL ” First you need to identify the problem. It's not actually happening in the combat phase. It's either happening in the movement phase or before you even start in the list building phase. To …

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    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    I played him round 3 and lost 12-8 Not sure how the raptors did in other games, vs me they deployed at his table edge, were charged by the cowboy and eventually ran off. His carnosaur was the real hero as it soloed both my full temple guard and saurus blocks from the front one after the other with no buffs despite losing 2 points of armour. I was not a happy frog. Enjoyed the temple guard and looking forward to rolling them across the table at wtc(or the hall if they fail to perform ).