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  • Quote from Fnarrr: “They prefer to use the spear, because there is no equivalent GW enchant...the spear has 0 synnergy with elven combat honours ” not having synergy is not a bad thing. Synergy always limits possibilities of useful combinations.

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    arwaker - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Rats believe in the swarm, the greater good. Sometimes rats are even indoctrinated, courageous or stupid enough to sacrifice themselves for the greater good. Goblins always stay individuals and always seek for their personal advantage. The average singular Goblin is maybe even more cunning and dangerous than a single rat. But the rats are a swarm, and as such they work together and achieve in groups something that a bunch of individualistic Goblins never could.

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    arwaker - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Well, I don't like our rats to be some kind of hairy Goblins. I think we can definitively be disciplined....soldiers marching in lines, obeying to orders from a strategon (some kind of general that has low combat power but "high" leradership for low cost). We can have a disciplined force. But sometimes everything just goes wrong. Machines exploding, units killing their own leader, betrayal, fear and terror making us flee. We are not as disciplined as Elves, but we are by far more disciplined tha…

  • ETC lists

    arwaker - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    in my personal opinion Gnashers don't need S5. 4 would do it perfectly, but that's a different story. We shall think only about points changes at the moment. Don't know what the whole picture of OnG armies right now is. ETC alone I would not base any decision on it's just too small of a sample. But if the %of Gansher herds at ETC would be seen along all tournaments, I think that would justify a small points increase. TBH, they are really cheap for their damage output.

  • ETC lists

    arwaker - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    That's what HE players say about Master of Canreig Tower. Do you think that point increases should be avoided at all? Only reduce points? I think this is rather one dimensional. I said to years ago that squid herds are strong; noone believed me. I said that VS Plague Disciples are super strong three years ago; noone believed me.

  • ETC 2019 Lists

    arwaker - - ETC

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    As far as I know, also casting value changes are possible. For example that divination maybe.

  • ETC 2019 Lists

    arwaker - - ETC

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    I think the board's plan not to change the rules is desirable. Imagine opening this pandora's box.... I am deeply convinced that 90% of the current balance issues can perfectly solved by points and casting values only, just like it is planned as far as I know.

  • ETC 2019 Lists

    arwaker - - ETC

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    its not so easy, I agree. For example 10-10 is not as likely as for example 13-7. We need to know the average distribution of points before. Did that a while ago, but that was I fear too long ago (probably before objectives).

  • ETC 2019 Lists

    arwaker - - ETC

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    Again the same argument: Is it even something that would not be expected even if all armies were perfectly balanced? Has somebody ever evaluated what would be the points of the army with the highest average points, if all were balanced? I did not, but just from my statistical intuitive feeling, I would say that 12 would be something I would expect as a random fluctuation occurring in such a small same size. Maybe I also do this math tomorrow.

  • ETC 2019 Lists

    arwaker - - ETC

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    ok, I just quickly did the math: In a perfect world, with 36 teams, each team having 8 absolutely random chosen armies (all armies are equally strong and it is just player's personal preference), there is an expected deviation of 6.2 picks from the average 18. That means: For ETC with perfect balance, we would expect one army to be picked 24 times, or another only 12 times. This is just statistics, no magic, no personal bias. Think about it and tell me how much meaning is behind counting pick ra…

  • ETC 2019 Lists

    arwaker - - ETC

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    Well just to highlight some context about the pick rate topic. Anyone (DanT?) ever calculated what would be the average pickrate distribution, if every army had the same 50% chance to be picked? I mean, number of teams is quite small, and even with perfectly balanced armies, I would expect some armies to be picked more often and others less often. Only when you know what to expect in a perfect world, you might be able to draw conclusions about real world pick rates.

  • I love those kinds of lists, and I'm happy to hear that it is at least somehow competitive.

  • btw: How did this 200 Citizen list perform, compared to a average HE? I'd be interested in hearing a short summary of the owner

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    arwaker - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Suggestion for Lightning Attacks: Range of the attack is increased by +2" per point of armor the target has. Metal attracting electricity. Too realistic?

  • The combination of about 100 tournaments provide a significantly more reliable outcome than only etc data.

  • Please do not overvalue the results of one tournament. Smaller player numbers lead to just highly random outcomes. Data team is preparing an assessment for the whole season. And virtually cutting results of the "high level player" is at least a questionable emphasis. In other faction forums I read the opposite, they want to cut the "bad"players, because they say it only matters how good the top 20% perform. I don't like any of those approaches, because none is without bias. People tend to choose…

  • I doubt that one single player has much influence on balance decisions. Don't be afraid of Furion ruling the meta with his HE If enough of you still suck, that will compensate :p

  • you mean like people complaining about ancient dragons being too weak? :p Well, to make it not only sarcastic: I am sure that data will show ADs are underused, and chances are good they will get a price reduction. Like many other things in this game as well.

  • Quote from Peacemaker: “but special deployment is a no no. ” I think it is a nono as army wide strength, but for the assassi (and probably the ravencloaks) it could still be still an option, without having DE too much emphasis on special deployment.

  • I think a viable rule for assassin type models (also VS) would be to not deploy them regularly. You can just put them at the beginning of any close combat or movement phase inside any of your infantry units (and also outside of units, just find a formulation for this rule that avoids any misuse as redirector). That way you can react to unforeseen situations, and the opponent must be anytime aware that there is an assassin popping up somewhere, directly to kill his precious general or wizard.