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  • HE General and News - Discussion

    Cam - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    The comparison with dread knights is out. To make them similar to Ryma knights you need to add 70 points for banner and banner of blood making them 5pts more than Ryma knights.

  • Future DH wishlist

    Cam - - Dwarven Holds (DH)

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    While I like the kings watch profile it would be kind of sad to see two of the iconic units be merged. Kings guard as is are alright. Deep Watch need something though, S5 and parry would make kings guard pointless and 2+ is ruled out. So seem to be stuck as they are and not sure what the rework could be.

  • @Squirrelloid. 4+ in core is dwarf/infernal/saurian territory and just behind Warriors. These are supposed to be some of the strongest armoured armies too.

  • Future DH wishlist

    Cam - - Dwarven Holds (DH)

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    @dan. Like the forge wardens idea. Could be workable.

  • Quote from Peacemaker: “Quote from Cam: “Quote from Peacemaker: “replace handbow with throwing weapons. ...it's basically what it is anyway. ” You’d lose March and shoot and 4” range. It’s pretty big. ” well obviously units like corsairs would get the march and shoot in their profiles. The loss of 4" range is in lines with the guidelines for reduced range. ” What I mean is it’s effectively a 9” reduction on a weapon that already isn’t used.

  • Paid up.

  • Quote from WhammeWhamme: “1) no, not official. 2) super muddied. Back to SQ: sure. If there's 4 tiers DE should probably be tier 3. As per the guidelines DE should not be bottom tier but should *definitely* not be top tier (a stronger statement). In a 4 tier system that is somewhere in tier 3. And a 4+ only vs ranged is somwhere berween a full 4+ and a 5+... and VS are not a LAB book yet so don't be surprised if VG don't stay as a quasi 4+ core unit. Most of your complaints revolve around indivi…

  • This is also where my lack of immersion with alchemy comes from.

  • Jack and rose made me laugh. Thanks for that!

  • Vale Renegades 9th age Cardiff Open 2019

    Cam - - Tournaments

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    Are any of those not yet paid liable to drop out?

  • Future DH wishlist

    Cam - - Dwarven Holds (DH)

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    Dwarf shooting is below quite a few armies which can stick a master on an offensive lore accompanying the shooting. There’s lots of things which is then a bit of a struggle (skinks for example) plus other armies aren’t M3 across the board.

  • I expected you couldn’t use mark of doom but looks like you could be right about the aura too @Lagerlof. Thanks. Well looks like the wandering familiar occultism dragon isn’t making it to list submission on Friday!

  • Future DH wishlist

    Cam - - Dwarven Holds (DH)

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    Shooting is already limited in the book and ineffective from marksmen. Plus zero offensive magic or buff shooting magic. Limiting it further just seems to be pointless. Especially when armies with strong offensive magic options already outshoot us.

  • Does wandering familiar mean that for the amplified mark of doom you only need to be in 18” instead of 12”? Or does the familiar not count as caster?

  • The Future of Repeater Auxiliaries

    Cam - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Peacemaker: “replace handbow with throwing weapons. ...it's basically what it is anyway. ” You’d lose March and shoot and 4” range. It’s pretty big.

  • HE General and News - Discussion

    Cam - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    Quote from jaith1: “ If Toxic attacks always wounded on a 4+ or 5+, then they could be better priced. ” At S3 they already do wound on 4s at best barring skinks.

  • ETC lists

    Cam - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Quote from Phoenix5: “Quote from Trains_Get_Robbed: “Gnashers are simply under cost no two ways around it. Just because the internal balance within a book isn’t properly costed, and group think-tank is too slow to catch up with the meta, doesn't mean that they aren’t under cost for they do. ” but why do you think they are under costed? I just said when they were at 13 points they were rarely taken. ” Models for the unit are far more widely available since the new GW models. Also the “measly 24 p…

  • The way it looks is this can just be another nerf to copters and maybe miners we used to see every update bar the last (although miners seem to be a bit less popular now?)

  • Quote from Giladis: “A question for anyone that is willing to answer. What is in your mind upper and lower threshold for unit sizes for MSU and MMU in the context of the DE army? (please answer separately for Inf and Cav) Cheers ” MSU Core 10-16 Spears 15-20 Elites 10-14 Cav 5/6 MMU Core 16-25 Spears 20-25 Cav 7-8 Elites 15-20 Blocks 25-40 for core 20-30 for elites