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  • Quote from IntrigueAtCourt: “Did you guys sell out this year? Looks like the same tournament you had last year had 20, and this year 30. ” Got to rally the troops, and help Alex with his PSA. Our first year we had 32, 28, then whatever last year was (I couldn’t go), and 30. So average is about 30?

  • Quote from Ciara: “Light troops scorers wont happen for 99%. Not before sylvans get such unit, hah. ” It’s all wish listing anyways, but why? I don’t see why not. Quote from Henrypmiller: “Quote from marlab: “If GW were to stay as is, but only change in points. How much would they cost before you would consider using them? ” Points are so tight in HE rosters that without a rule change I probably am not taking them. Maybe something like 120 in lists that can use them. AD lists etc. ” I’ve to othe…

  • Quote from Bobo: “Sure - various sources of re rolls combined with in-game factors and unit v unit matchups matter and can largely invalidate the Fae Miasma. But historically people don't remember these times. They remember that time when they rolled seven 4s to hit and the Grey Watchers lost them the game, they jump online to vent about it and hey there's another's guy who had that happen once; his cousin has a pitchfork factory and all of a sudden Grey Watchers are broken and you have an angry…

  • Once Bitten in Germany

    Trains_Get_Robbed - - Germany

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    Quote from oncebitten360: “Hey all, I am in the process of moving to Augsburg - probably will be living here half time - and would love to get to know the local players. I haven't shipped any of my armies here yet, as I have never had to ship them before, and it seems like a lot of work. But, I know that eventually I will want to start playing here. Are there any groups in the Augsburg area - or, if not, then in Munich? OB ” If I get stationed in Stuttgart, I’ll pm you so we can have two America…

  • Quote from Cealyne: “@Deino I don’t see my list sir. Frankie, you did reply via email that you had it though. ” I’ll message Charles and see when we can round the boys together for a list review.

  • Quote from Finrod: “1x High Prince, Army General, Light Armour, Spear, Destiny's Call - Standard Size only, Sliver of the Blazing Dawn - 425 1x Mage, Asfad Scholar, Divination, Wizard Master, Book of Meladys - 565 24x Citizen Spear, Musician, Standard Bearer, Rending Banner - 389 24x Citizen Spear, Musician, Standard Bearer, Rending Banner - 389 5x Elein Reaver - 180 5x Elein Reaver - 180 23x Lion Guard, Champion, Musician - 629 5x Knight of Ryma, Musician - 360 5x Knight of Ryma, Musician - 360…

  • @Vespacian I played against your HBE x2 Chariot List. It’s not bad, but it suffers from being “too fair” in spots. For example, I’d prefer the Wardens were larger (don’t really have points to make that happen though, as the only ranged threat is QG). We didn’t add up the points (18-2ish) in the mirror) as it was MSUs first game in a minute with HBE. That being said I’d love to see the concept delved further. I’d do it myself, but I want to qualify for US Masters, and my HBE score at Strength In …

  • Quote from Archeron: “Quote from cptcosmic: “Quote from Wesser: “The standard reasons. You can't judge the SE dragon for example by how good it would be in the HBE army, because the SE dragon is priced based on it's value in the context of the SE army. It needs to be considered that it is only DI9, that it competes with Wild Huntsmen in the character section, what support it can get, what role it actually play in the army and so on. ” does the HBE variant provides more power to the army because …

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Quote from Trains_Get_Robbed: “That’s simply wrong. Not allowing a Bsb upgrade for a MotC would effect external balance ” ...that was basically what I said, but enjoy your rant anyway MotC that isn't a BSB is a valid option internally though. You need a support mage a lot of the time, and with bow of elu for 365 he is a reasonable tradeoff vs an adept for 225; your actual BSB will probably end up being QC (around 250 pts). ” It didn’t read that way to me, because he would be …

  • Quote from DanT: “Anyone here still want to moan about data driven approaches? Anyone? ” Is this a “I told you so?” Because the data driven approach does have flaws even if I support it as the only real logical measurement of external army strength. Quote from Giladis: “It should be noted that being in the bottom tier does not mean the army is awful. It merely means that within the spread of performances it has the strongest trend to be placed there. The army performances which will most likely …

  • Quote from Ludaman: “Seems pretty cut and dry. Most enchantments (not all) give weapons “Magical Attacks” most spells (maybe all? I didn’t check) that do damage deal “magical attacks” some shooting does magical attacks. If daemon’s bane gives you +2 Armor against magical attacks, it gives you +2 armor against these things. Is someone arguing otherwise? ” Correct. Yes I would assume the same thing, but I recall there being a separate ruling/debate. Quote from Lagerlof: “Quote from Trains_Get_Robb…

  • ETC lists

    Trains_Get_Robbed - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from epoepo: “Quote from Trains_Get_Robbed: “Quote from epoepo: “So a lot of crying from outsiders during the year about our army being op and we are not doing even 10 points on average, with our uber daemons, pendulums, wheels annnnd mighty catas XD ” Well. . . Because it is? Lol Yeah, it is, because you are saying that. I´ve not seen you in rats subforum never and come here like an expert XD Just because at the most prestigious tourney of the year the army finished slightly below average…

  • ETC lists

    Trains_Get_Robbed - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from Lagerlof: “@Trains_Get_Robbed It's not a good idea to call someone out for hyperboling, and then do the exact same thing yourself. Just saying ” Sure I used two statements of hyperbole, but as someone that’s levying a claim, and knows the numbers of said unit/model in question why do I need to support it? I’ll let them do the math. While the claim of external vice internal balance, and the coping of ETC’s meta game to handling VS and UD is a reasonable hypothesis. Quote from Bogi: “We…

  • What is the official ruling on Daemon’s Bane from the HBE book? I can’t find the old debates anywhere. Form what I recall it was: The +2 AS only applies to Magical Attacks that are from models that innately have it, or magic. Vice the current wording which reads: “The wearer gains +2 Armour against Magical Attacks.“ Is there a faq or errata I’m missing?

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Quote from Trains_Get_Robbed: “Army S/W shouldn’t be a thing, rather a guideline dictated through the fluff of each army. ” That's whats happening in T9A? You are thinking of the old hangover fluff, which often says "we are amazing at everything" for a bunch of armies. But its not really relevant here. The new fluff and play styles will reflect each other ” What’s not relevant? Old fluff? I’m not referring to old fluff. Don’t know how you inferred that. (As an aside: there’s …

  • Quote from Herminard: “Quote from PadForce: “yeah, but that play style is totally not achievable with our current book ” That is true - but T9A is still a much better sandbox than any other game ever was - if it was deemed a desired playstyle. ” This is very rose tinted glasses of you. Most other game systems didn’t have to “determine” a playstyle, because their justification was the book itself being released. Have Cavalry? You can play knights/busses. Have elite infantry? You can play footslog…

  • Quote from The Changing Constant: “I think a buff wagon would completely the wrong way to go. Part of the biggest differentiator between HBE and EoS is the open play style allowed by HBE elite units not needing buffs and able to work independently. Furthermore, it would further erode the already tenuis difference between HBE and DE. I think moving some units to conclave/support is the right move. Also, either dragon cavalry, loin cavalry or a magic pillar(that is not a buff wagon) all sound like…

  • S1N just happened in Toledo Ohio. Do you need lists for that? I feel guilty for saying I’d lend a hand, starting, and never finishing.

  • Quote from Vespacian: “@Trains_Get_Robbed @Eldren Let me know if you want me to take over some of the ones your working on. I’d really like HBE to be in one of the first group reviewed for points as I think we need it! ” I just realized I haven’t done Buckeye Battles, and still had my name next to it. Feel free to take it from me.

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    Trains_Get_Robbed - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from Lagerlof: “It's funny, I don't even like the catapults Never feel like they do anything that matters in the game, but sure, great potential. I would make Brotherhood Bodyguard (Pendulum) and remove Stubborn, would atleast promote bigger units instead of the min sized 20. And is more equal to other strong infantry units with characters, Imperial Guard, Iron Orcs etc. I would do some slight changes to the wheels, maybe remove S6 from CC, or change to hit on 4+ in CC as well. But IMO the…