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  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Wesser - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Arthur: “@Wesser I think it should be pretty obvious why I felt you came across as hesitant and reluctant to do something with my comment. That being said, I'm happy to hear that you do find my remark important, no need to get into an argument beyond that if you feel like giving the build a shot to see how it plays, always willing to be a sacrificial lamb ” Ha, I could make a list, but Im not sure me playing it Will be conclusive, but would be happy to. In the end we will have to prio…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

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    Quote from IHDarklord: “I think @Arthur made a very valid point. Something like double Tbat and Dragon does not belong in a game of T9A. ” Is that something you base on actual experience and play or is it just a random statement declaring something “not belong in the game”? Heck Im not sure what makes this combo worse than double Horror combined with double count on flying steed

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Wesser - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Arthur: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from DanT: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from DanT: “Quote from Arthur: “I definitely don't wager this is the new horrible power build, but it feels very unbalanced, and it's so out of tune with everything T9A stands for, that I wanted to raise it as a point. ” I think it is good feedback.Combinations are the hardest thing to account for in a data driven approach, because they are highly non-linear.Pointing out combinations like this for RT to discuss i…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Wesser - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from DanT: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from DanT: “Quote from Arthur: “I definitely don't wager this is the new horrible power build, but it feels very unbalanced, and it's so out of tune with everything T9A stands for, that I wanted to raise it as a point. ” I think it is good feedback.Combinations are the hardest thing to account for in a data driven approach, because they are highly non-linear.Pointing out combinations like this for RT to discuss is the kind of reason the beta exists (to…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Wesser - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from DanT: “Quote from Arthur: “I definitely don't wager this is the new horrible power build, but it feels very unbalanced, and it's so out of tune with everything T9A stands for, that I wanted to raise it as a point. ” I think it is good feedback. Combinations are the hardest thing to account for in a data driven approach, because they are highly non-linear. Pointing out combinations like this for RT to discuss is the kind of reason the beta exists (to my understanding at least). I am su…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Wesser - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Myeah... I'm usually wary of counting magic same as I rail against the feeling on some forums that VC "just heals up their troops" as if it were free. Obviously the Dragon have MR2, and the most potent spells have fairly short range and need forward arc, so one wizard struggle to actually control the board that way and the VC player can prioritize dispels... We shall see

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

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    Quote from Adam: “It doesn't sound that strong to me, you are nearly forced to make dragon to be general (due to horror march problems and the aggressive nature of 3 monster list) and that makes for one super juicy target - which if dies crumbles both horrors with him with high reliability. So that makes your 6W dragon roughly 2k VP target. ” Well put I worry about whether it could become one of those RPS builds (OP against WDG, but horrid against DH), but lets have the tables talk

  • Quote from Everwind: “I am new to the game, and price drops are nice, but I am not sure what adding an additional 50 points or so is going to do to competitive balance. Maybe it adds more diversity, but the units are the units, their strengths and weaknesses have not really changed. The only thing that really would change SEs to a more balanced and competitive army from what I have seen is making shooting more relevant. I would love the ability to enhance the SEs with Master Archer, Poison, and …

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

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    Quote from Arthur: “I was asking if someone consciously made the decision to allow it, or if it was just an oversight? You seem to be suggesting it was the latter? It would be a complete paradigm shift for T9A to allow 3 flying terror causing thunderstompers in the same army. That's why I'm asking ” I can certainly ask about it, but I doubt anyone went through every potential combination. It is what beta is for And oversight? Strong? Paradigm shift? Too early to tell. If you’re concerned about t…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

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    Quote from Arthur: “Saw a double Tbat + Dragon list in action earlier today. It was a beautiful list, but I do feel this archetype might be a tad powerful. Was its newfound existence considered in the implementation of the update? ” Data-driven process But a major part of the beta is finding any such problem - if indeed a problem it is. Bit too early for me to say at least.

  • Wesser's Battle Report Thread

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    Quote from Fleshbeast: “FDE taking 8 Forest guard with Res6! Massive! Your opponents dice must have been on fire! ” Quite. In fact Res6 didn't do a single thing as he rolled 4+ on 8/9 rolls that combat Oh and played against DL yesterday. Heath Riders with Healing Waters managing to bag a Miser and Omen, and only Wrath of the Gods could stand before the Bladedancers. The list does seem to have an issue with Scoring though...

  • SE vs WDG 12:8 Counter thrust, Secure target (Drawn objective) MVP: Treefather (the one who killed a WDG Lord and Shadowchaser Chief and chased of Batherine Sorc with unit) LVP: Other Treefather, who failed every sort of roll he could..grrr SE vs DL 14:6 (objective lost) Counter thrust, Hold the Ground MVP: Heath Riders! Killed MIser and Omen LVP: Heath Hunters

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

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    Quote from Adam: “Is there any info why VonK and Altars didn't get serious discount? Afair they are pretty much extinct. ” No, every option wasnt looked at, and I know as much as you regarding what entries were looked at

  • Ghasts are not Scoring either, nor Sand Stalkers I think, but thats maybe about it...

  • And while Independents are popular taking Arcane Knowledge means limiting yourself from certain things in the VC book...

  • Quote from Izomov: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from Izomov: “Quote from Wesser: “ ” Because.. math doesn't tell us what the combined overall effect of the various changes will be. There's no question UD magic will be weaker, but will it be too weak? ” ” Ah, I think we have run afoul of one another.I am not talking about the change from 2.0 to 2.1. 2.0 Hourglass was horribly strong for its cost. My argument is this: 2.1, the Hourglass nets us fewer successful casts of the hereditary than playing w…

  • Quote from Izomov: “Quote from Wesser: “How about playing the game and letting your ACS know? It's beta.. so go an arm your ACS with solid arguments and data. Declaring something new to be bad without testing is something that can be safely ignored ” Because, this particular point of the game is pure math? There is no esoteric component like movement, or unit match ups.How is the fact that a 120pt magic item means less ressurected models not a solid, data driven argument? Because.. math doesn't …

  • Quote from Izomov: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from setepenmentou: “Quote from Wesser: “Oh, how awful. Instead of ultra-reliable magic and no risk of misscast UD have to dice-manage like every other army? Lets just see how beta turns out ” Reliable magic is part of our ASAW list I remember :p ” Hourglass is still there and so is Soul Conduit? Whats the problem? ” Problem is, you are spending 145 points for no value. Without hourglass, on an 9 die phase, you can try casting 3 spells, 2 of which yo…

  • We need more 9th Age background I need another world to live in if models like that is raising stock price...

  • Quote from setepenmentou: “Quote from Wesser: “Oh, how awful. Instead of ultra-reliable magic and no risk of misscast UD have to dice-manage like every other army? Lets just see how beta turns out ” Reliable magic is part of our ASAW list I remember :p ” Hourglass is still there and so is Soul Conduit? Whats the problem?