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  • Quote from Koller: “Quote from ValourUnbound: “Looks like we have the only banner that costs over 100 points, so this might have been an oversight. I've let the team know. Anything else like that? These are the things that we need to find while it's still in beta. ” You are not, ID have Icon of the Inferno (115 pts) its a banner ” Yeah, but a Vizier can have up to 150p in magic allowance so.. VS are at the moment the only army where the BSB can't take a certain magic banner.

  • Quote from IntrigueAtCourt: “Am I the only one slightly disappointed? I don't see how 3 more LG or 1 more ryma is going to propel the roster from tier 5 to 3? ” Well you could also try to maximize your "profit" by building an armylist containing a lot of the reduced stuff. Maybe you end up with a list worth 120 more points with the old costs (which at least is what happened to a couple of new lists I wrote for ID). Together with the nerfs on the top tier armies..

  • Quote from Shane: “It’s interesting that of the first 4 armies being re-created, none are supposed to have cheap chaff. Any idea if that’s an overall project goal, or just an accumulation of coincidence? The Coincidence seems unlikely unless we factor in AS&W impact of single Concept driven design (ie, all of those armies are “Elite” in their core identity, and thus must be moved away from their multiple faction identities because reasons), but if that was then or is now a project goal it would …

  • Quote from Shane: “As i’m Thinking about that, If the Hob’s become race-neutral “Vassals”, what happens to the wolves? Is the better plan to make them “Vassal mounts” and give them stats on line with horses, or keep them with the current stats and give them a generic name? I’d think the best plan would be a name change and no stat adjustment, because changing rules/stats means starting over and losing the months (years?) of balance work that has been done to current iteration, but I actually don…

  • Quote from Exalted Champion: “Arcane compendium is updated. But where is the promised change to unnerring strike? @Krokz ” In the casting value. +2 to cast for both versions.

  • Quote from da_griech: “Doomwheel now only hits on 4+ in combat if I understand it right? ” What makes you think so? It's still "hitting" on 3+ in melee.

  • Quote from Jocker: “EoS Tier 5... I'll back to OK... Not reason to do this to EoS. Shields for 10/15pts...? WTF ” Remember, it's not a beta for nothing. Give it a try or two, report and thus give constructive feedback Things might still change.

  • Quote from Litoperez: “Can you explain me how can it be,??? we are a bottom tier army but anyway continue to get price increases????? while all the elves get cheaper and cheaper??? Is because we dont cry enough? How can it be that if we get a worse stank, it could remain in the same price? ” Every armybook is getting price increases and decreases. Why? Because the goal of the update isn't just exterior balance but also internal. Thus the strong choices will get a bit weaker while the weaker ones…

  • Quote from TobiasP: “I dont mind the slave/vassal thing at all. However were there not spoiled something about hobgoblin(= slave?) magicians? That has an odd ring to it, in my ears. ” Hobgoblins are not slaves ! Well some might be, but generally they're Vassals. Vassal states are allowed to operate on their own, only beeing supervized by some dwarf/dwarves, making sure they're paying their tribute to the citadels.

  • Quote from namadeva: “Quote from Shako: “Quote from namadeva: “When will LAB time come? Cheers, ” No one knows yet.ID and DE are in production, the next in line is yet to be announced. ” Wait, are you saying that ID are in LAB phase? But their thread is "not-LAB"... me confused. ” The ID LAB is the first one made with the new process and thus the first one to be finished. I assume playtesting (internal one at the start) will be starting this year. The "not-LAB" in the thread-title was added by m…

  • Quote from Shane: “Perhaps i’m running the math wrong. 20 Immortals with IW/Shield have gone up 20pts (1ppm) for IW (2->3) and an additional 20pts (1ppm) for shields (2->3), so it has actually gone up 40pts? (2ppm). ” Well, yes but the base cost has been reduced by 20 points :).

  • Quote from namadeva: “When will LAB time come? Cheers, ” No one knows yet. ID and DE are in production, the next in line is yet to be announced.

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Shako - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from AlexCat: “Where do 75 pts come from? I will restate my point: IMHO this guy deserves much bigger increase. Based on his power level, utility and what price hike similiar models gained. That is all. ” The 75 was pulled out of my behind, doesn't matter which number one puts in as my argument was about the context it creates. And hey, fair enough, I'm not arguing against that. Just trying to point out other consequences one needs to consider Quote from VampsinMD: “I'd like to see some 2.…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Shako - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from Shako: “It's actually not that much compared to other stuff. One could argue that his popularity will increase after ETC, in that case I expect higher numbers of appearance from now on, which in return will lead to him getting more expensive. ” Well, this is what I started from. A data based approach, making an accent on single tournies is bound to miss the meta sometimes, while biggest international tournies (always team ones) catch much quicker. Out of 23 ETC li…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Shako - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from Shako: “Quote from AlexCat: “I would certainly expect him to get similiar attention as the worst offenders from other books got: - like spike shield Doomlord or Envy Wardais Burning portent chaos lord - tomb architect or hourglass So, 30 pts at least, preffereably around 40. ” I'm not saying BK 410 is fixed with becoming BK 425, but there is a difficulty with fixing him. That one being that his equipment (and with that MOST of his power) comes from the AC. One cou…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Shako - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from AlexCat: “I would certainly expect him to get similiar attention as the worst offenders from other books got: - like spike shield Doomlord or Envy Wardais Burning portent chaos lord - tomb architect or hourglass So, 30 pts at least, preffereably around 40. ” I'm not saying BK 410 is fixed with becoming BK 425, but there is a difficulty with fixing him. That one being that his equipment (and with that MOST of his power) comes from the AC. One could easily "fix" the problem by making th…

  • Infernal Dwarf Book Snippet

    Shako - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Whamme said everything I wanted to, and better. In addition regarding the concepts of Jannisaries (and mind you, I pretty much only know about them what you've been writing here, and the little bit from playing Civilization 6): That does read like a neat concept, but for my taste it doesn't quite fit to ID, as they see all other races as unworthy (same as DE in that regard). I'm not sure what the result of do ID enslave each other as punishment is/was/if there's a result yet, but I voted for "no…

  • Quote from The Unmarked: “Well from what I have read, all of the changes to other books have been automated using since sort of algorithm. Not excited about the lack of human touch, but we'll see what happens. ” This is false. This update is mostly a data and algorithm driven approach yes. Mostly not only. RT sat together over those results and discussed them and adjusted if deemed necessary. I don't know whether they've actually discussed about every single unit entry and option, as that would …

  • Quote from JimMorr: “Black Orcs of WFB were at the core of Chaos Dwarfs identity. They shaped destiny of both Chaos Dwarfs and Greenskins and were one of the key events in race history. However ID in T9A have received new role and have shaped destiny of the world in much more significant way than Chaos Dwarfs ever did. Inferno Setback was far more important and should become core of ID identity. Persisting in keeping Black Orcs and Hobgoblins as heritage would make it harder to adopt that new id…

  • Quote from DarkSky: “Quote from duxbuse: “id prefer something like if harpies are in the flank or rear of a combat the enemy counts as having one less rank for the purpose of steadfast. ” Problem with that: If the Harpies are too squishy, the enemy will easily get Combat Res from that charge, especially if you charge rear and the opponent can create additional attacks out of that. ” Are they though? If they're supposed to become more elite, who's to say they dont get R4 (differentiates them furt…