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  • Quote from marcema: “Quote from Cuendae: “Now we can play true MSU list: 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 26 Saurian Warriors @ 638 Pts Spear; Shield; Standard; Musician, champion Banner of Relentless Company [40] 15 Skink Braves @ 135 Pts 15 Skink Braves @ 135 Pts 3 Pteradon Sentries @ 18…

  • Quote from Keumy: “Quote from Zamo: “I said it a looooong time ago... and is still a problem: This army is Cuatl dependant... and Cuatl CONDITIONS IT ALL AROUND HIM...ALL ” I could not say it any better... Having an overpriced and over evaluated average level master that can become very good (if you want to risque losing 2000pts in one unit) was digestible so far... Most people who wanted something else would play 1-2 buffed skinks on palanquin or stygio... now most of what makes skink great jus…

  • Official SA update thread

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    Quote from Sander: “I never saw the role of pteradons. In my eyes, they die when you touch them, dont do much damage and are too expensive to chaff. So what do ypu do with ‘em? ” Pteradons are part of the infamous double flee trick. You have two units and position both to chaff an opposing unit, they charge one, you flee to safety, they redirect into the other, you flee again. Now the key part is both units have fast cavalry rule so when they rally, they fly march back to chaff the opposing unit…

  • Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “Quote from Zamo: “If he had 5A I would consider it... With 4 miserable attacks i dont. To do 1-2 wounds im not using this guy. I rather pay a bit more for a stygiosaur. ” For now I would like to have an Ancient instead. Both look appealing in their own way.It seems patch actually solved some issues since we're having this discussion about choices we can make. Quote from marcema: “What about running 2 cowboys? Basalt, Dexterity seems viable. How about adding one with Tau…

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    Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “@Ipower @marcema 5Hz5M8r.png Mounter Tauro options ” Thanks, will pass them on

  • Quote from marcema: “Quote from raven: “Hey lizards ! I have a good new ! We can land even more dinosaurs !!! Isn't it a good news ?? That's for me one of the most important reason i play this army. i can land now 2 baby carno plus 3 stygio for even less points than before ! With skink priest support (1-2 adept druidism) and a biiiiig saurian warrior with spear. Or a cuatl in TG (25) and serpent spear warrior. Have fun ! Me -> <-others ” You can even field 2x thyroscytus snake altar, 2x stygio, …

  • @Traumdieb really? You are complaining the price of skink Caiman units dropped too much? There really is no way the staff can do anything right. This update focused on internal balance for us mostly with some buffs (we have way more buffs than nerfs). If in two months we are still underperforming then we will be buffed more. As for people who want to play competitive, yes you probably have to rewrite your list from scratch. That's kinda what happens after an update. Trust me there's some strong …

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    Quote from fjugin: “According to out data In tournament lists it sees roughly average use, but is actually more used than other items. EE rates it average (3.4 on grade 1-6), community as 3.6. This data doesn't really give us the indication that it deserves a price cut. They all point towards raptor spirit being a balanced item. ” Latest from RT on Raptor spirit.

  • Official SA update thread

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    We did ask for reasons on the nerfs. The response was that data showed the alpha plus starfall shard was too common in armies. Hence the 15pt rise. As for the price on the palaquin according to RT every source of data ranked the palaquin as above average, so data, EE and community survey. Raptor spirit was not dropped in price due to being seen a medium number of times in the data. These decisions weren't random, as for those proposing rules changes please remember the only rules changes allowed…

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    The scar vet got cheap enough you can get a useful one for 300(raptor, shield and lance) but I think it's actually going to be pushed out by the thyroscutus ( who ever thought that would be said?). Delighted by the drops to shooting, make JG great again!

  • Official SA update thread

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    So the update is out. What do people think? Is there any typos?(tag me or @marcema) What are you most excited about? Any new combos? Will have a separate thread for complaining so please keep this positive

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    Quote from raven: “and actually, monster vs monster, the carno eat almost every monster i think (F7 d3 dmg agi 3, born predator is good for a monster). The problem is the "gus" on the top of the dragon which one-shot the carnosaur without thinking. Play against a WotDG which kill my warlord on AC before i hit even if i charge... well... what can i say ? He was faster with fly, better agi, better hitting and he cost less than me. a no go zone for the carno, but carno don't fly and he has 2xdogs a…

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    Quote from sonny1086: “Quote from Eymuster: “Is the optimal price point for these choices= the maximum point where people will stop taking them? I needed to ask because I feel current method of "x is used a lot, therefore must be too cheap. Must be increased in price. Y is not used at all, so let's try a little discount" is leading us there. ” This is a very important point. I also understood (i may be wrong here) the balancing patch 2.1 mainly to achieve good internal balance. The problem is th…

  • SA balance ideas

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    In order, yes, maybe and yes. I'm not saying they are broken but they probably wouldn't be hurt by a small price rise( is 5-15pts going to change much? Doubtful). Either way, the update is coming soon so you'll get to see what RT think(hint, fair number of price drops, obvious price hikes are obvious(but small)). I'm super excited for it.

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    Quote from Just_Flo: “Quote from Zamo: “Main difference in current playstyle and meta... Dragon CANNOT BE CHAFF... Thats huge ” Please, try to sell the WdG board, how great and underpriced their dragon is, also mention please that it is better or comparable to an Alpha Carnosaurus. Don't forget to tag me there. I will enjoy really big what the WdG Board than will do to you. ” I'm with Zamo here, wdg dragon is indeed underpriced for what it is.

  • Quote from marcema: “Skinks are small and could possibly use poisoned javelins as spears. Give them the rule that they can either use them shoot one round with them and they are gone or you keep them as spears and get poisoned attacks in combat with FiER. In addition, they don't count as JG anymore. ” Pilum style? Interesting. I'd be worried about the price but if it's close to forest goblins we should be ok.

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    Quote from raven: “Even with this difference, a saurian warlord with alpha carno is at the apex of the food chain. ” It's really not. The Koe Duke was the top of the food chain and nothing was close. Now that build is nerfed I'm not sure what takes its place but doubt it's the alpha. Ws4 and low agi means models like the omen, some elf, koe, vampire and chaos lord builds just butcher it before it gets to swing.

  • Quote from Cuendae: “Well, splitting skins and counting it as 2 is same as splitting saurus by totems and calling it 5 ” Not really skinks with caiman are not the same as pure skink units. I think there is a good argument to split the scamain into a separate unit.

  • Quote from Giladis: “Mid cav with Raptors (same as Saurus ones) as the combat element and Skinks as the ranged element. Sort of in the range of Barbarian Horsemen seems like a good spot. ” But not fast cav or light troops of course . God forbid those avoidance players get to do their thing.

  • Quote from Giladis: “Skinks on Raptors into Core and SA would have a well rounded category. ” what role do you see them playing? Are they just chaff/fast cav? Medium cav like silver helms/empire knights? Fast scoring that can't fight? Shooting cav? Skinks with blowpipes on light raptors(m8 1 s4) would be awesome with March and shoot(not full light troops)