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  • Quote from AlexCat: “Nope, dont like it. ” Fair enough. But atleast it is different

  • Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from john doc: “Maw evoc master, iron husk chit scales, tentacles Harbinger on wheel, adept thaumaturgy, breath, guiding unhinging jaw/digestive vomit 3x10 succubi 17 myrmidons 2 gremlins 5 furies 6 fiends 6 veil serpents champion 6 veil serpents ” Ths only fun thing in this roster is Harbinger. Anyone else is tried and proved good tourny choices. Show us the list full of imps, eidolons, hoarders, glories, titanslayers lead by a Scourge or Styxian Spirit. Then we will …

  • Quote from Maelstorm: “I on the other hand have been having tons of fun with the book ” What type of lists have you been playing?

  • Quote from Happy Aspid: “Sorry - not helpful, how it is HITS the sentinel? ” Alex is talking about internal balance, what is an attractive choice internally. Nerfing an overused option might help lesser options become viable. You are talking about external balance. How good the sentinel is compared within the boundries of the game

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “ok, now I get it, this makes more sense but, if mid tier keeps their position and top tier drops to mid but HBE power does not really change (and I think we can atleast agree that two extra R&F models wont do much, lets keep new setups out for second) then HBE is still at the bottom below mid tier. ” Yeah we can agree on that ^^. If every army get the same treatment except the top ones positions will be the same. But I think that it is harder to gauge the impact betwee…

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “once again it depends on the other armies changes. Even if HbE got no changes what so ever and all other books got an avarage increase of a 1000 points. Then HbE would be the OP army even if it was left untouched. ” if other armies get 1000 extra points HBE will be OP? what?! did you by chance consumed some dark shards? ” The magic of Internet discussions. If the avarage units got a total point increase that amounted up to a cost increase of a 100…

  • Quote from espn: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “I have a question. Was it stated how much underperforming HbE were? Cant find it now but wasnt there a post about HbE underperforming similarly to the armies in tier 4. But got its own tier thanks to there being a greater certainty that they are underperforming? ” I really dont see how a 30-50p point decrease could take a bottom tier army up to mid tier. I appreciate some of the point decreases in this patch, but that's mostly internal balance anyway. …

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “depends on the overall treatment of the army id say and what treatments individual picks got.Theoretically speaking. If VS worst list are as weak as HbEs worst list and they got the same treatment then thats good. As long as VS strongest list would be nerfed down to be as strong as HbEs strongest list. So its not the individual changes that matters but the overall effect that the changes has on balance. ” the overall effect is that there is neglig…

  • Quote from DanT: “Quote from umbranar: “Moar math-hammering! Vacuum comparisons are they only way to know what works before you waste your time playing ” I actually can't tell if you are being serious or not. That is how bad the forums have become Quote from Kapten Kluns: “Quote from DanT: “Quote from Krokz: “Stating that fire can be put down with water is kinda being mr. Obvious right? Every unit has a counter and every cowboy (much more the ones below 400 pts) can be killed by one or two spell…

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “Was it stated how much underperforming HbE were? ” does it really matter how much they are appart? if armies above HBE receive a similar treatmeant does external balance change at all? ” depends on the overall treatment of the army id say and what treatments individual picks got. Theoretically speaking. If VS worst list are as weak as HbEs worst list and they got the same treatment then thats good. As long as VS strongest list would be nerfed down…

  • Quote from DanT: “Quote from Krokz: “Stating that fire can be put down with water is kinda being mr. Obvious right? Every unit has a counter and every cowboy (much more the ones below 400 pts) can be killed by one or two spells by more than half the paths. If you can't stomach that reality, which is a feature and not a bug of T9A, then do not play cowboys. ” Stop bringing logic and reason into internet debates, that isn't what the forum is for ” Make up your mind mate. At times you are unhappy w…

  • I have a question. Was it stated how much underperforming HbE were? Cant find it now but wasnt there a post about HbE underperforming similarly to the armies in tier 4. But got its own tier thanks to there being a greater certainty that they are underperforming?

  • Tbh there are a lot of people out there enjoying the old metal miniatures tanks to them being sturdy and the good feeling of the weight to them. Perhaps there would be a marked for a company creating miniatures made out of wolfram

  • Quote from Henrypmiller: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “the internal balance is better then great ” Lets not get ahead of ourselves ” Haha, well done avoiding the elephant in the room named. If

  • Quote from Shako: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “How much do pleople think that the externally strong armies have been taken down? Thats also something that will affect the overall performance of 4500pts vs 4500pts on the table. With an increase in VS and UD lists of something like 200-300 points the decreases of 50-150 points to HBE lists might amount up? And if the internal balance is better then great ” The ETC lists for VS increased by an average of 162.UD I can't remember from top of my head, i…

  • How much do pleople think that the externally strong armies have been taken down? Thats also something that will affect the overall performance of 4500pts vs 4500pts on the table. With an increase in VS and UD lists of something like 200-300 points the decreases of 50-150 points to HBE lists might amount up? And if the internal balance is better then great

  • Im not commenting that much since I have zero worries about the powerlevel of the book. Its all about the rules and possible builds that the update will bring for me. Everything else I can handle with a smile on mah facebucket.

  • Quote from Martins9thAge: “Quote from Eisenhans: “I really can't see the downside on this so called nerf. ” OFC if you don´t play competitive list is not a nerf ” Thats the good part. Now there might be more competative builds

  • Happy to see many positive posts

  • SA balance ideas

    Kapten Kluns - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Cuendae: “E.G. Omen kills alpha before he or lord can even strike. So I guess we can say that he does handle D3 S7 attacks ” Whats the avarage amount of wounds that the Omen does to the Alpha? With its attacks and OS being random. I Think that it is something like 5 if he rolls slightly above avarage on attacks and OS aswell as having +1 attack manifestation.