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  • Quote from Shako: “Has anybody by chance done the calculations for all the ETC lists? How much they changed in points each? If not it's gonna end up my job for tomorrow. ” I have not and I would like to see what they look like.

  • Quote from clorens: “raising the ambush 15p and lowering the unit 15p leaves it the same, what would it mean? ” It would mean that the not ambushing unit is more reasonably costed. As I said - it would be an internal balance shift.

  • Quote from Eldan: “I tried to mainly stick to alliteration and paired sentences, but even that was basically impossible when translating English to German. So after "Heil Harald Vidarson, Herse der Hrodarlinger" I pretty much gave up on it. I mean, I snuck in a few more alliterations ("Seeschlangenstark", "Wut des Winters"), but didn't really manage to pair them up properly. ” Vidarson spells (H)vidarson - similar to first sound in why why but sharper. So ya - quite a thick one that. .... Its no…

  • Quote from Ironrock: “ Points Change Feedback; - Wildhorn Herd - Free weapon choice / -1 pt to weapon choices Plus bigger rules changes such as; - Wildhorn Herd, increase min size and Ambush cost, small increase to unit cost I'll mention the rules changes, but at this stage I think we need to look at the points stuff only. ” Fair enough. Pardon for mixing up my points feedback with rules changes. My revised feedback for Wildhorns: - Cost increase to Ambush - evenly matched by a cost decrease to …

  • Quote from Eldan: “Heck no. I still have nightmares from trying to get Asklander poetry to work in translation. ” If its anything like Norse - you have two choices: Fornyrdislag - the common skaldry - This is an 8 liner with 2 and 2 and 2 and 2 sentences being connected to each other. - The paired sentences are connected with allitterations. - Check þrymskviða for reference. Ljodahått - the magic skaldry - This is a 6 liner of 3+3 paired sentences. - The 2 first sentences are lighter and shorter…

  • Quote from dan: “Quote from Herminard: “Ask anyone how I fall through when encountered live. ” There are people who survive those encounters? ” I remember some having a satient sorewalk the day after - some having a few happy bruises - but I dont recall any unaccounted for?

  • @Ironrock Tough. But it is a call between the Wildhorns and the Longhorns.... hmmmm Case for Longhorns: - Their upgrade is backwards. Halberd is the better pick. Would make sense to come with GWs as basic equipment. Even if this would make them even cheaper. - Their bulk cost is absolute bonkers. Its an 8 ppm discrepancy between start cost and bulk cost now. - Their Bodyguard rule could include General. Case for Wildhorns: - Their Ambush cost is undercosted. This results in their equipment costs…

  • 2.1 OnG Chat

    Herminard - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    @MikaelO RE: The WarCry / add add base cost switch: - for the Warlord and Shaman - this is fine. They are played as Generals, and they are often played on foot. - for the Orc Chief - it hits the on foot BSB. Thats fine. This is the best and most common Orc BSB solution. - for the Goblins? Umhhh... no. Place it on the most common mounts. Foot goblins are not good nor played. RE: Trolls/Gnashers. Both James and Vince dropped Gnashers for Trolls before the update - because the metagame reacted to t…

  • Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from Just_Flo: “Sorry, Alex I thought you knew that there are threads in each board, where the usage is shown. I also remember to have witten in several threads you post regular in that we don't link usage to results. ” Is this the one?Please help your ACS and TA on doing tourneylist analysis At long last I thought of copying the table inside the post into Excel. Many thanks, I was really slow catching up on this. Surprisingly, usage of Swordmasters seems higher than o…

  • 2019 HBE Update Feedback

    Herminard - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    @Aenarion43 I have not checked for HBE. Perhaps just a few for them. Irrespective - I live with T9A behaving this way.

  • Quote from N3okorrales: “Quote from Herminard: “Quote from Furion: “res6 3+, thunderstomp, Quote from AlexCat: “This is really interesting, can you elaborate on it a bit? On paper Nova lance hits much harder unless you wanna do a lot of "parking" of enemy units and prolonged combats. Also, very interested on your take on the Griffon. He does roughly twice the damage than the dragon on charge and much better protected AND (thus having really good synergy with MoCT), has smaller base, AND faster. …

  • Quote from Furion: “res6 3+, thunderstomp, Quote from AlexCat: “This is really interesting, can you elaborate on it a bit? On paper Nova lance hits much harder unless you wanna do a lot of "parking" of enemy units and prolonged combats. Also, very interested on your take on the Griffon. He does roughly twice the damage than the dragon on charge and much better protected AND (thus having really good synergy with MoCT), has smaller base, AND faster. What are the arguments against him? ” High movem…

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “ a Herminard post I fully agree with, WTF, the sky is falling! ” You would be surprised. I dont think your sexlife will improve if you continue to allow your relation to the T9A forums to be an outlet of frustration. There is no sustainable kataris outlet with internet activity - try the real thing.

  • Quote from Mandavar: “Quote from Herminard: “Tbh I feel more like exploring other books instead. Not because the update is bad - it just does not offer me any incentive for developing my HBE Battle Line. ” That is exactly what I am thinking to be honest. I play HBE exclusive now for more than 3 years and my loss ratio was highest in the past year in decades of tabletop experince. Still I like HBE and hoped to get energized by the patch. But it is another baby steps change for the things that mat…

  • Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from Herminard: “Not because the update is bad - it just does not offer me any incentive for developing my HBE Battle Line. ” So, the patch isnt for you and your playstyle and favorite archtype. This is fine and being dissapointed if fine. But stretching it to the whole of update - thats what I dont think is right. ” Entirely so. For other playstyles I feel the update even more positive.

  • Quote from elendor_f: “Quote from Herminard: “Same with Flame Wardens. Really wanted to try 1-2 x15 of those. But 680 for 30 of those compared to 630 for the very heavy lifting 30 Lions is just no contests. ” Nitpick: it's 710 for 2x15 Lion Guards isn't it? Not saying it changes the contest or your conclusion. 635 is a single unit of 25 Lions. ” 3x10

  • Quote from AlexCat: “I honestly think that people, already claiming this update is a failure external balance wise honestly werent at all against HBE becoming new UD and had their sights fixed somewhere in the B (second most powerful) tier as for where the book should be. ” Its not a failure. Thats hyperbole. I wanted to try to run maybe 2x5 or 2x6 Highborn Lancers in the Norse HBE list, but I dont see how I can justify their cost as is. Same with Flame Wardens. Really wanted to try 1-2 x15 of t…

  • Quote from Wesser: “Quote from IntrigueAtCourt: “Thoughts on our new roster options to face the new zombie dragon + 2 terrors + 2 dark coach builds? ” Have you seen it on a board yet and would care to post some feedback? I'm getting complaints about the build, but so far its just theorycrafting. Considering that nearly all remaining points will likely have to go to Necromancers and Core I can't see the build being any kind of viable, so I'd be thankful for some feedback on it ” I have seen it 5 …

  • Quote from IntrigueAtCourt: “Thoughts on our new roster options to face the new zombie dragon + 2 terrors + 2 dark coach builds? ” Dragon, NecroMaster, Core, 2 coaches, 2 shriekers - what are the last ~400 points for? The Barrow King BSB? Looks like a build that does not like high quality damage. Several models with ~100 points per wound.