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  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from Shako: “Quote from Mirdhynn: “Do you have some numbers about the standard deviation for all armies ? This to put in perspective the "it passes or it breaks" aspect of the armies. I calculate 34 pts of standard deviation for the BH army. ” I have not (yet). At the moment a couple of armies are still missing their ETC calculations, which I'm going to do today/tomorrow. If I have the spare time I'll do a post in the general forum covering all 16 armies and their values. ” Please inform w…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    @Mirdhynn I'm sorry, but this is just your opinion that BH suck on single events. Data from tournaments show something else, right @Just_Flo ? As to mentioned 3 units: Cyclops - they are very good for this price in my opinion Jabber - 320 looks interesting, worth testing Longhorns - big units have 3 problems: 1. Most of all are horribly overpriced!!! (at least 2ppm for extra models) 2. Our heroes on foot are mediocre at best. 3. In this section Minotaurs are way better.

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    @Hruggek We are talking about THIS patch. Main assumption of this patch its that we do only price changes for better overall balance (with exception of UD Hereditary and Duke Nukem - I don't think there were any other design changes, right?).

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Guys, please be realistic. Before you write anything you must consider facts: 1. BH are competitive army, for sure not below average. 2. There will be no design changes. So all ridiculous wishlists make no sense. I bet most users don't event read these lists, especially if they are RT members who see them in all 16 army forums. In addition, this way, if you have 1 good idea which is hidden among 15 unrealistic requests and wall of complaints, there is a big chance it will be lost. For example - …

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    So we have an update. My quick thoughts: CV of our hereditary Boosted Version should drop by 1 (to 8). 9 is very high and spell is very rarely taken. Balance changes Special Items: • Twin Hungers 40 ↘ 35 OK • Seed of the Dark Forest 60 ↗ 65 OK • Eye of Dominance 30 ↗ 50 - too big of a price increase, will not be used • Banner of the Wild Herd 50 ↗ 60 - unnecessary, but comes from core so doesn't matter much I'd like to see -5 pts on Inscribing Burin and -10 pts on Pillager Icon, because we don't…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    IMO putting BH in 2nd tier is correct judgement. I just hope that the incoming nerfs will not be like blanket bombing of whole book, but clinical strikes (spears on Mongrels should cost something, shields on minotaurs are ridiculously cheap - should be expensive, not sure what else). Also some costs, like extra models of wildhorns (or maybe PW on wildhorns?) and longhorns should go down in price.

  • Quote from saint_barbara: “Quote from Archeron: “Quote from Frederick: “It’s a Hotel! Sure it is possible Hanging out at the pool I guess? ” Hmm a game in the Pool that could be funny but i would not try cause of i´m frigthend my modells will not survive fully ” the-ninth-age.com/community/in…cf63db227f7d682d1acc66cae ” We did it at 2:00 at night. That was a bootcamp to remember! #ETC2014 Can't wait for WTC 2020!

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    For me Wildhorns extra models should be much cheaper, while spears on mongrels and shields on minotaurs should be more expensive. Minotaur warlord is definitely too expensive as well. And extra models of longhorns. Other than that it's rather ok, -5/-10pts for some unused items like pillager icon, dark rain or inscribing burin would be nice.

  • I can't believe what you say regarding external power level DL is for sure above average. I would be surprised if any country planning to win ETC wouldn't take DL.

  • I use him as BSB. Current build: Bluffers Hide, Eye of Dominance, Beast Axe Build for bus with Minolord inside: Wildform, Obsidian Rock, Obscuring Fog, Dragonbane Gem, HA, Beast Axe, Shield Overall he is a great hero, but usually has to sit in the unit, because of lack of protection against ranged dmg.

  • WTC BH Lists

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Another problem is that gortach has to get to combat to earn points. Therefore he gets into short range of machines and all shooters. Also in range of divination, which often doesn't even reach Cyclops. This is huge difference in survivability. Another thing is when your gortach is reduced to 2 wounds he might become close to useless in many pairings (he has big chance to die in 1st round of combat). Cyclops on 2 wounds just pulls back and shoots normally. I played 2 gortachs since the beginning…

  • Come to Herford next year and you will get it Our club already has 2 or 3 sets And the cards are only a part of all goodies you get

  • WTC BH Lists

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    I played with my 3 cyclops list (you can find it somewhere above). Game 1 vs Germany 1 - Paul's DL with 2x6 bloat flies, maw, 2x succubi, 3 crushers, 2 furies He was slowly pushing, I was hoping to soften him on range. 1 Unit of flies went on my flank. It was bit isolated from the rest of the army, so I took a gamble trying to destroy them with shooting, magic, etc. Unfortunately it didn't work out. They killed 1 of my Flags (we played KoTH) and I couldn't even get half points for them until the…

  • 71 Divination Masters. Next place Shamanism with ... 42. Evocation adept popularity is not surprising as well.

  • WTC BH Lists

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from clorens: “in fact according to Caal they are a crap ” That power of arguments!...

  • WTC BH Lists

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    In my area most players take rather universal lists for team tournaments, usually the same which they take on singles. You don't want RPS effect screwing your results due to bad luck in in pairing on singles as well as putting your team into unfavourable match up on team tournaments. Usually, the more universal list, the better. That's why I take cyclopses over gortachs. Don't want to destroy pairings of my team. On the other hand the list with 3 cyclopses is a nightmare for dragons, etc. Why cy…

  • DL FAB 2.1 Discussion

    Kolata - - Daemon Legions (DL)

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    19 BH in Herford. 8 lists with Eye. 7 on beastlord, 1 on mino chief (my list). Of course this item can be gamebreaking vs DL and help with pairings on team tournaments (that's why I took it ;)). But it's not autoinclude. In the end DL is one of 16 armies.

  • DL FAB 2.1 Discussion

    Kolata - - Daemon Legions (DL)

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    Just giving most obvious possible solutions. It is also dependant on the build of the EoD carrier (which character, with AS or naked, etc).

  • DL FAB 2.1 Discussion

    Kolata - - Daemon Legions (DL)

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    Flies with toxic. Succubi with poison. Breaking in combat. Charging brazen beasts. Magic. Omen in challenge is still very dangerous, especially with re-rolls to hit. Grinds from hoarders.

  • Yep, double Gortachs actually cost 1060. Edit: to divination you can add Grave Calls + Hellfire WDG combo.