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  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Grouchy Badger - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Altar of Undeath (claimed as useless / never used etc) was used 43 times in 295 tournament lists collected. ” .... thats barely taken. unknown.png How can the team look at this and not think something is very wrong? If my math isnt donuted Dark coach makes up 70% of all chariots taken, while alter of undeath is only 16%. That is indeed BARELY taken, while the rest, mathematically, are RARELY taken.

  • Quote from Just_Flo: “Normally I would have locked in as contigency. But I did work 14 -15 hohes that day and so the Backup wasnt avaiable, too. ” Then you need more members and more redundancy

  • Quote from Blonde Beer: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “I don't want you to time travel, I want the team to do the basic things that should have been done in the first place. ” Let me add a bit here. I don't want to come over to strong, but maybe it makes something a bit clear. 1) Previous update I spend quite a bit of time with ACS to add explanations to everything to help them out. It was way more work than I thought it would take, but I tried to much as possible. 2) After this update I told RT I…

  • Quote from Snarkhunter: “Dark Altar - I recall seeing that a few EE mentioned it was too expensive, but during RT talks we were reluctant to reduce price given what we see as a current abundance of attacks (game wide, not necessarily faction specific) which ignores the to hit roll. I think only 1 RT wanted a small (5 pt) reduction in price, the rest said no. This reasoning is also evident in the updated Essence. ” The thing is only worth while at turn 4 when it can wound core units on a 3+. for …

  • Quote from Blonde Beer: “I can write down my own reasonings for the point changes for transperency mate. One of the things I do want to work on the future is just to record the discussions. This might make it a bit more clear why RT went certain ways, or else atleast help showcase how it goes. Von karstein bloodline. Clear feedback from ACS, none from EE. I felt that it wasn't worth the points as is, with data backup, so I went for a steep decrease in points. There was some discussion about the …

  • Quote from Krokz: “s like its a not a game with toy soldiers made by volunteers but a million dollar stakeholders meeting. ” I voice over for DnD stories and write them for youtube channels as well. Every day im in contact with the team and constantly trading information as well as keeping tabs in a word document of everything thats said. Its the correct thing TO DO.

  • Why did it take almost 10 pages of posts just to get to this point? This could have all been circumvented if you had just done this in the first place. Quote from Lich King: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from Krokz: “@Blonde Beer you are always over stretching Let me be the punching bag. VC was considered #4 army (by our models which include EE data, single tournaments data, team tournaments data) before first point update and after point updates we still considered VC to be top3 army. This…

  • Why did it take almost 10 pages of posts just to get to this point? This could have all been circumvented if you had just done this in the first place.

  • Quote from Krokz: “With pricing there is very little reasoning apart from: - where in the external power level is the army - where in internal power level is the unit So we just feed this two data points in our Python code and we get point costs. This is how we avoid bias. Of course you can be biased about external and internal power level, this is why we are transparent and made Tier list for external power level public. As for internal power levlel data we used publicly available data that is …

  • Quote from Krokz: “@Blonde Beer you are always over stretching Let me be the punching bag. VC was considered #4 army (by our models which include EE data, single tournaments data, team tournaments data) before first point update and after point updates we still considered VC to be top3 army. This was based on our observations and EE feedback. This is why in latest point changes VC did not get as much reductions as other armies. This last update we were doing changes based more on macro outlook, …

  • Quote from Norbaminiatures: “Hi guys, As we have already announced in our post, we will launch a new kickstarter in the coming weeks, completely for EoS. Our new kickstarter campaign will begin either at the end of this month or at the beginning of January... 2 Machines with a great vintage touch will be back to the market at prices of 35 euros and pikeman, halberdiers, great swordsmen... And a lot of more surprises awaits to you, children of Sigmar, get ready Best regards, Eduardo Barroso Acedo…

  • Quote from irvingberlin: “Quote from Just_Flo: “When I get more I will give you more. ” First off I appreciate the fact that you are in here at least trying to have a dialogue. I've worked customer service in the past and its the worst. And you're not even getting paid for it. This last line from your last post is honestly the biggest issue I have with this whole update and the entire project in general. The fact that you have to go ask for more info on why things were changed is absurd. Every s…

  • Quote from Hachiman Taro: “ometimes it takes a little time to get all the right people / information all together for a reasonably well put together explanation. ” I do not agree. If the people are together in order to make the changes, they are also together to compile those reasons via a meeting scribe and then have something to produce when the community calls upon it. Not to mention, they would avoid the screaming if they did the correct thing, and simply produce those reasons for changes au…

  • Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Quote from eggsPR: “Quote from Hachiman Taro: “My point is the responses started vitriolic, and seemed to have remained so. That's not what the 'summary' I quoted would have you believe. Staff members consistently responding that such vitriol isn't possible to engage with constructively is a lot more reasonable in that context. There's little point engaging materially with the demands of someone who vitriollically insists you are part of some unreasonable conspiracy ag…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Grouchy Badger - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Volunteers who have limited time ” Thats not an excuse.

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Grouchy Badger - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Quote from Dark_Side_Duke: “For everyone new to the thread, below is an accurate summary of the events that have thus transpired: VC Community (VCC): Umm, why were we nerfed so hard, twice? The Team (TT): Fella's we're going to need you to calm down, we can't talk to you like this. VCC: Why does TT hate VC? TT: Data can't hate, data shows VC was way too good. VCC: Would you please show us the data analysis you used to come to this conclusion…

  • Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Quote from Dark_Side_Duke: “For everyone new to the thread, below is an accurate summary of the events that have thus transpired: VC Community (VCC): Umm, why were we nerfed so hard, twice? The Team (TT): Fella's we're going to need you to calm down, we can't talk to you like this. VCC: Why does TT hate VC? TT: Data can't hate, data shows VC was way too good. VCC: Would you please show us the data analysis you used to come to this conclusion? TT: Trust us, we know what…

  • Quote from Dark_Side_Duke: “VCC: If you won't show us the data, which we dispute having shown that VC was overpowered, the we can only assume you actually hate VC. TT: One more mean thing and we'll ban you! ” "and take away your profile image! That'll teach you for not boot licking!"

  • Quote from greentide: “l(unless you take lots of archers, which is blasphemy ofc). ” unknown.png

  • Quote from berti: “Quote: “UD are widely agreed to be the strongest book pre-update, and every single UD army had a chariot unit of 8 (some more than one) They went 6.66% (675> 720) so a unit used by some is nerfed more than a unit used by all in an army in a higher tier ” If you use examples and comparisons do them in the correct way, not only the parts that seem to help your own argumentation. UD Chariots also were nerfed in max. unit size and in the way they can be healed due to the nerf of t…