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  • OnG 2.2 update

    sgu97bjd - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Quote from arwaker: “I think crossbow orcs 7 wide are an option for Shaman transporter. ” only if you don’t want your shaman to move. If you need combat buffs then you have to be mobile which means sacrificing their shooting.

  • OnG 2.2 update

    sgu97bjd - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Overall it seems like a sensible update. I’m particularly pleased to see the Wyverns come down in price, although the bigwing still doesn’t seem worth it. And whilst the crossbow orcs are still in min units of 20 which I don’t agree with at least their points have come down. The best thing though is that at long last the common goblin king is the same price as the cave goblin king. That’s been bugging me for ages

  • Quote from Firthunands91: “ I have yet to find a unit under 400 points that is a terrible match-up for them. ” 30 gnashers should do it, sorry for derailling but you did ask.

  • Quote from Ctuchik: “ I actually don't bother with partials when I write the totals. They didn't seem that useful, when I validated them 90% were false positives anyway. A better way of handling them might be to go through tournaments with a lot of partials manually and change any true hits in the actual list to the full name. Doubt it's worth the time though. ” Is there an easy way to turn on the partials just to see what it looks like with them as well?

  • Quote from WAARGHammer: “I have the 3dartdigital orc warlord, if you want to buy it i'll sell it to you, I don't plan on painting or playing him ever because i don't play OnG anymore. @sgu97bjd ” Thanks for the offer but I imagine that shipping him from the states to the UK (plus customs) will cost too much. Actually I’ve just noticed all their deliveries are from the US so it may not be a practical option even buying it online.

  • Quote from Little Joe: “I had to check, but that plastic miniature is more expensive than a larger resin boutique miniature (orc queen) of much higher sculpt quality. Of course it is much easier to build, but that just looks wrong. I only point it out because when I made my reply prices were not cheap, I must have had my head in the sand too long. That is just shocking that it can't compete in my opinion. If you want a big orc, check out Avatars of war: aow107_1.jpg A lot less then half the pric…

  • Quote from Little Joe: “Quote from sgu97bjd: “Does anyone know any models for a larger scale orc? I want something to use as a sort of orc daemon prince on a 50mm base. ” 3Dartdigital has large orcs, but for a 50mm base you would be looking at the Goblin. Yedharo Models has an Orc Queen. You will find more orcs when searching for 70/75/80mm orcs or 1/24 for something that nicely fits a 50mm base. ” I love the 3dartdigital orc warlord. It’s probably too big for what I need but I might have to get…

  • Does anyone know any models for a larger scale orc? I want something to use as a sort of orc daemon prince on a 50mm base.

  • I’be just started playing warriors and was thinking of using a hellmaw, however I have noticed quite a lot of negativity towards it here. What don’t people like about it?

  • Quote from Ctuchik: “Maybe War Cry can help mitigate the “low dis” pain point. On the turn it triggers all fleeing units automatically rallies, something like that. ” No offence but I don’t like this solution. You can’t build a strategy around fleeing and then auto rallying, it might occasionally dig you out of a hole but if you have multiple units fleeing you are probably in pretty bad shape and this is unlikely to swing things. Plus many of our units don’t panic so would rarely benefit from it…

  • @Little Joe the only ones I would not include are the microcosm ones and the first lot of games workshop ones. I don’t think goblins with guns really fit into 9th age and the GW ones look more like ghouls than goblins.

  • Just a couple of small other edits. Lightning Vambrace is being duplicated at the moment due to me also putting in 'Lightning Vambraces' as an alternative but this is unnecessary as the extra 's' would be picked up by the correct spelling anyway. Also there is an extra space in one of the variants of Crown of Autocracy. How come the partials are not pulling through onto the spreadsheet?

  • @Ctuchik I've gone in and edited the code in the shared document so that it should now capture some of the more common errors that I found. The only thing is that when I run the code it does not seem to change the values in the spreadsheet? I assume this is something to do with the urls but if you could let me know what I am doing wrong that would be great.

  • I've been through the first 9 tournaments and compared the manual counts to Ctuchik's algorithm. Overall the accuracy is about the same. Both methods have errors but there are some easy ways to improve the algorithm to make it much more accurate. The main problems I found with the algorithm are : - Heroes Heart: the algorithm has two identical spellings in the code which is duplicating any entries with that spelling. Easily solved. - The Banners were a bit of a problem because people use banner …

  • 2.1 OnG Chat

    sgu97bjd - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    True, I got insanely lucky and had a GGI in range to give me the reroll 1’s.

  • I’ve checked a couple of the differences between the manual counts and the algorithm driven one and so far the algorithm has been more accurate. I’ll continue to check others and see if this remains true.

  • 2.1 OnG Chat

    sgu97bjd - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Quote from kaisersose: “I am going to give my opinion on the book changes. Overall I think we end up higher that we were since the overall nerf has been higher than ours. Magical objects - Tuktek’s Guard and Pan of Protection Pinchin’ =. I have never used them and I find them underpowered. Is there people using it? I would like to see the statistics. Pan of protection pinchin’ was one of the more popular items as it was used in 22% of tournament lists. Tukteks guard not so much however, it was o…

  • I played a 3 game tournament with a GGI BSB a couple of weeks ago and was was my MVP. He crush attacked to death an Ogre general, a infernal dwarf on a lammasu, an infernal engine, and helped beat up some beastmen. He’s not always that good but I certain think it’s a competitive choice.

  • 2.1 OnG Chat

    sgu97bjd - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Quote from The Matt: “All the characters went up 5-10 points. So while it looks like Warcry got free, the points were stealthed back into the characters (even at basic, general, bsb, and wizard it's a 30 point increase, good forbid you took lots of little characters on gnashers and Chariots and such, guess it was overpowered) Gnasher herds were increased again after a decrease, no big surprise. ” I think that the character section in the book was probably the most powerful for us in 2.0. I regul…

  • 2.1 OnG Chat

    sgu97bjd - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Quote from kaisersose: “Quote from Traumdieb: “Shamans went up because warcry is for free now. ” Shamans were overcosted before. Goblins were the worst and the most expensive among S3 T3 wyzards. ” Do you really care if your wizard is S3 T3? If he’s using these stats then something go has gone wrong. The reason orc shamen went up is because they were our joint most popular choice for general. I’m not sure why goblins went up as well but they were also taken a lot as adepts so maybe that’s why.