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  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from DanT: “Quote from VampsinMD: “I do think that we should have had more objective measures to analyze the impact of the first set of recent changes but we are where we are so let's get those objective measures now instead of more changes based on opinions. ” Out of interest, do you have any concrete suggestions?(Apologies if you've already proposed them and I've missed them) To be honest, I feel quite sorry for the project on this one. During the early stage of the patch, a lot of peopl…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    @Aenarion43 thanks for the offer but I'm not really looking for a debate about who was the most hard done by or an explanation of your opinion since it's neither here nor there to me. So much has been discussed in this thread that it's easy to miss stuff, depending on where you entered the convo. I have already agreed with you in stating that we need to see what happens now, in terms of power levels, after the recent changes. I do think that we should have had more objective measures to analyze …

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Aenarion43: “Quote from Vamp87: “These are not really comparable situations as Hbe were quite overpowered when the beta first came out and VC were considered above average but not top tier. You *do* realize that literally the only "proof" that they were overpowered was opinions, right? There were like TWO tournament results from before they started getting massively overcorrected, and NEITHER of them showed HbE dominating (in fact they had a pretty average spread for the army). "Highb…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Krokz: “Quote from VampsinMD: “From my perspective, the reason the process is being questioned ” IMO the main problem is difference of opinion where VC is in external balance. It all comes down to that, all later point changes have a root from there. I advise next time when tier list is published and community does not agree with it that you start questioning ACS, and consequently Data Team and RT, about it asap. Quote from Grouchy Badger: “I don't agree with a single point you made, …

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    From my perspective, the reason the process is being questioned is bc we got the first patch update based on all the different types of data and subsequently armies and units received point increases and decreases based on a formula where top tier armies buffs were less and nerfs were harder and vice versa. In theory (and we know this not to be precise), all armies should have been the same after that patch. This initial process seemed fair. Then the second patch comes and VC get nerfed harder b…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Some of the questions being asked here might be answered by a quick look at the publicly available data linked a few times already here: the-ninth-age.com/community/in…used-for-the-2019-update/ Or taking a little time to understand the scope of the update. For example I believe from a quick look: Altar of Undeath (claimed as useless / never used etc) was used 43 times in 295 tournament lists collected. Units used that much didn't tend to get price drops in even lower t…

  • Quote from Sergrum: “Quote from tunasandwichify: “Quote from skipschnit: “I'm hoping he opens it up to Asklanders and Cultists and any other alternative armies. ” Would love to see more tournies doing this! ” Ill go the other way and say i dont want them allowed :P. Dont want any fake rules! ” agree. already enough armies to learn/have to plan for

  • Grail Quest December 7 - 8

    VampsinMD - - Mid-Atlantic

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    Quote from skipschnit: “NameArmyBattlePaintSport TotalOverall * Travis Weyforth * DL * 78 * 6 * 12 * 107 * Mark Ciarlone * KoE * 77 * 6 * 12 * 106 * Alex Schmid * WotDG * 69 * 6 * 15 * 101 * Andrea Nini * DL * 67 * 10 * 12 * 97 * Chris Mince * VC * 57 * 10 * 11 * 89 * Gene Phelps * KoE * 57 * 6 * 13 * 87 * Matt Allison * DH * 55 * 6 * 12 * 84 * Chris Mitchell * OK * 54 * 3 * 15 * 83 * Nate Allison * VS * 57 * 3 * 12 * 77 * Brian Hulley * EoS * 42 * 10 * 14 * 77 * Victor Baginski * UD * 43 * 10 *…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from eggsPR: “Folks while this is great stuff about bloodlines, this is not really the place for that. We are giving feedback for 2.2 which is geared towards only two things: 1) recent points changes 2) recent design nerfs The part about how 10 hunters is almost a swap for the recently-nerfed-yet-never-taken-seriously Varkolak was a good point though. Did everybody notice that a Shrieking Horror is only 20pts more than an extended coach now? Do you think they may move Dark Coach back into …

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    I think we still have a playable book. Small units of vampire knights and vampire spawn took big hits over the last 2 updates... I'll have to change quite a few lists due to those changes. Varkolaks going up was certainly surprising. Not sure they are better than frost phoenixes The units that went down in points should see more play.

  • Quote from duxbuse: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from duxbuse: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “i do that even not being an ACS ” ex-acs ” why must you remind me of my suffering ” Don't worry max of 20% suffering. ” LOL

  • Grail Quest December 7 - 8

    VampsinMD - - Mid-Atlantic

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    very surprising to see EoS and KoE combine for 7/21 lists. Less surprising to see good representation for DL and WDG - "legendary" book status adds so much awesomeness. Not a single elf list!

  • Titans are good for a team. Dont know who's in it yet but we have at least 4 who want to go.

  • Quote from whitebeard: “I think the easiest way to fix thah power would be to add the +1 for being wizard master. Or to choose one different path (divination, fire,...). ” yeah,that would be easy but since no redesigns until LAB might as well dream bigger and get a bit more funky

  • forbidden path is a cool concept that LAB could work with. So many possibilities as it could mean so many things... extra path access, extra spells... perhaps something with using veil tokens for effects. many, many possibilities. Maybe useless currently.

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    VampsinMD - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Shako: “ True they also get Drain Magic and I'm not denying that it can be useful..but to be blunt: I've never seen it cast once yet. Most of the time my opponent rather used those dice to cast a buff spell. ” I've seen it cast on my Zombie Dragon, almost certainly contributing to its death (got rid of it's 5++). It was quite powerful in that situation.

  • Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from The Matt: “I believe grouchy has stated this is a secondary build, after the good items are used up. Personally i would use essence of mithral and Tali of shielding To keep the distracting, but thats just me. ” Its seems to be a versus of: distracting, 2+ armor, 5+ ward parry, 3+ armor, 4+ ward save 5+ gives me dreadful cobbywobbles when most things have ap2 and more. ” against OS 8 or more the parry does the same as distracting

  • Quote from Grouchy Badger: “@VampsinMD Has any testing been done yet? ” I don't think so. I wish I did have inside info... I suspect they are just testing DE and ID right now. By the time they get to VC I'm sure this thread will be buried but we'll remember the premise of this idea and bring it up again at the right time

  • Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from Vamp87: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from VampsinMD: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from The Matt: “Quote from Stirnlappenbasilisk: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Ya'll are sleepin on close combat lamians. Vampire Count [770pts]: Army General, Commandment, Evocation, Heavy Armour, Lamia Bloodline, Shield, Wizard Adept. Special Equipment: Cursed Medallion, Legend of the Black King, True Thirst - Vampire Counts and Courtiers Only Killed a dwarf king i…