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  • Quote from Just_Flo: “Quote from elendor_f: “Quote from Riismanden: “On a totally different topic. @elendor_f do you know if a balance update is still expected this fall now that ETC is not there? And if so do you know appr. when? ” A balance update is indeed planned as far as I know. The when depends heavily on when the filling of the army lists in the spreadsheets for analysis is completed. ” If you all help it can be sped up. ” I will see if i have time this weekend. I have not done it before…

  • On a totally different topic. @elendor_f do you know if a balance update is still expected this fall now that ETC is not there? And if so do you know appr. when?

  • Hi. Cost of young dragon for commanders in HBE queens cavalier list is 250 points not the current 275 points. Thanks a lot for your great work!

  • Nice spread of units. I think all unit entries are present except Sloops and queens guard. Both grey watchers and frost Phoenix is there. Also some quite different lists. I love it!

  • Well I think the discussion around MoCT is somewhat meaningless. The project showed in the latest update that it was data driven and so I would expect the outcome to be determined by how much we use it compared to the other choices. If vanilla commanders are not seen chances are their price will drop and if we only use 2 honors for the commanders those would probably increase a little in price. Looking across many books I think the last data driven update showed a really positive trend in relati…

  • In relation to griffon spam I think all large and gigantic mounts should be 0-3 or or less. No matter if it is chariots, griffons or something else. It would only affect very few lists and just remove the most spammers.

  • Quote from elendor_f: “Quote from Aenarion43: “That is a welcome surprise, though wholly unexpected. Granted, Furion is skewing that a bit. I'd say the book is Tier 3 at this point. ” Well if you don't count Furion there are 3 other HE players in the Top 20 of the individual ranking: - One at position 4: a list with a Frost Phoenix, which internet wisdom says it's unplayable garbage, and no BSB. - One at 14: the double Sea Guard double Elite infantry and MSU LG mad lad. - One at 16: the Queen's …

  • I know we already spend viel tokens for favour, but what if the weapon was something like: Wearer gains +1s +1ap. The wearer may discard up to 3 viel tokens. For each token discarded the wearer may boost one of his A, S or AP stats by 1 for the current turn. Not sure about if the initial boost is to strong on a GW but spending one token for single turn stat boost seems quite magical and fluffy to me.

  • @Just_Flo That sounds really awesome. Great work you are doing with the data assembly!

  • Quote from Palinux: “2.2 HBE most of the mounts for High Prince is showing “no cost” Great work so far! ” Unfortunately a known iOS problem. It works fine in android.

  • You guy's rock!

  • Overall very happy with the update. Internal balance among elite infantry is much better. Internal balance in core seems good, not sold on Lanciers yet but the rest seems quite balanced. Flame Phoenix is gonna get a new test as well. I definitely do not consider us a bottom tier army anymore, at least that is my gut feeling. Where we are in reality I do not know.

  • Quote from Ferkinason: “Something bad comes to my mind... Commander, General, QCav, Griffon Commander, BSB, FO, Griffon Commander, Griffon Commander, Griffon Commander, Griffon Commander, Griffon Citizen Spears Citizen Spears Citizen Spears Citizen Spears Knights of Rhyma 7 Swordmasters 7 Swordmasters 7 Swordmasters 7 Swordmasters ” QC cannot take griffon. But irrc you can make a list with 5 commands on griffon, but they will all be quite naked.

  • I really like this competition. I have a few ideas - Prince, RH, DA, long bow, shield, spear, sliver, willows ward, diadem. 520 points. Essentially a 2+, 4++ with the spear - Prince, RH, DA, long bow, shield, hand weapon, heroes hear, protection of dorac, diadem. 515 points. Essentially 1+, 4++ with heroes heart. Let us know how the battle goes.

  • @Groefte how did the double dragon list perform? 1. Did you miss the champions on chariots? 2. Did you miss extra bodies on the spears? 3. How did the lanciers do? 4. Lastly and most important was it a fun list?

  • Quote from Groefte: “This Weekend I'm taking HBE(HE) to a tournament for the first time since ETC 2008. So wanted to drop in and say hello Its a 5000 points tournament so a little different but otherwise a "hard" tournament with a good number of ETC players. I wanted to play a fast CC list and since the usual suspects are all there in force I wanted to try something different. The list I ended up with is ... different I know it have some weak spots - on paper at least, its all theoretic so far -…

  • @piteglio amazing work! Super cool way of displaying data! Some of the items needs to be evaluated in context with the mount choices, but really interesting graph.

  • Quote from Just_Flo: “Quote from piteglio: “this is a very interesting topic, and i think some data visualisation could be helpful. can i access the raw data? something like a spreadsheet with three columns: - name of unit or option - frequency of occurrence - point change after update is this data available to the general public, and if so where can i find it? ” Please send me a PM. almost everything is already free avaiable. Will react afterplaying my first Tourney with HE today. (First with H…

  • For me the issue with the spear is that it is the only really competitive choice for a front line prince. Being the only competitive choice signals for me that the base prince is overcosted for what he brings on foot(I think we need a stat line change if we need to solve this). I would prefer that I had a choice between several different magic weapons on foot and that I had to think hard around how to build my foot prince. This is unfortunately not the case today. So my conclusion is that the sp…

  • I think I would phrase the MoCT question like this. With a usage similar to RH why did the MoCT prince go up in price when RH went down with 20 points. Shouldn't the MoCT prince also have seen a price cut?