Thanks for sharing @Klexe.
I'm very surprised by the lack of Brigands - even more so that they're picked less than core Bowmen. What is it that people don't like about them? Light Troops, Skirmisher, Quick to Fire, and Aim (3+) always felt a winning combination to me, even when compared to elves considering how damn cheap they are.
Adding yeomen and scorps and 1 bus of your choice (grails, questors) and you have zero space left
yeomen into core (elfen already have that)
ealistically (unless you're DanT or some other genius) you need characters so they're pretty much up to 40% or certaintly in the high 30 percents. Core is a minimum of 25% so that's as near as 65% of your army gone without thinking about special units.
What do you mean that doesn't sound healthy?! Of course knights will be picked more, the appeal of this army is for most people, that it is a knigt/cavalry army.
And what do you mean by fair?! Equality of outcome is stupid. Would you say that Special has to be distributed equally too to be fair? That makes no sense and removes choice for no reason. If I can't field an all cavalry army, that would seriously suck.
My rates are similarly low or lower. My last list had 34,2% Aspirants, 52,9% Realms, 12,9% Bowmen and 0% Levy in Core. Since this lone unit of archers was the only instance of peasants in my army, overall peasants where 3,8% of my army.
And if we are straight true here.... if we remove current peasants the powerlevel of KoE wouldnt drop one bit.
Most lists have zero peasants.
What i meant with FAIR (i wrote it fat because fair is not fair if you now what i mean). It is hard to say.
KoE is cavalry focused! So 50/50 would NOT be fair.
The unit needs to have an pick rate. Zero pick rate means the unit failed.
And if KoE is cavalry focused the unit should be there to support cavalry and help cavalry.
For that it needs a task.
Chaff is the counter to cavalry so anti chaff is a good task which bowmen have.
So the question is: why do people not play more bowmen? They are there to help cavalry by removing chaff. Answer is: They are not good enough
I personally hope for a 10% pick rate on both of them
So? That means they aren't picked much. This number is close to my list, but I think you interpret this number different than me. I took them for a specific task (removing chaff and softening up some units if possible). I didn't take more because I think 1 unit is enough and I solve the rest with other units. Doesn't mean they are trash. I don't take forlorn either (because I don't have the models and like an all - or 96,2% - cavalry army). That doesn't mean Forlorn are trash, it just means I chose to build my army list different.
And i think i made it clear that what i am talking is ONLY my point of view, nothing offical or anything else!
None. There shouldn't be an acceptable or unacceptable number of peasants. Everyone should have the choice to field them as they wished. That choice should be able to be 0%.
But if all competative lists do NOT pick them it means there is something wrong with this unit. Competative lists are mostly powerplay and thus are taking units to win.
brigands one of the better units because of movement, anti vanguard and better hitting power and i truly belive if we had like 5% more special points we would see them more (and a little buff)
That is why I again say:
Range dmg should only be special and be good at supporting cavalry
20% core only
Move yeomen into core (but then 25% core)
---> this would allow us 1-2 units more in special and would open up builds to support pieces
why go by % points at all?
The very fact that a unit gets taken means it is viable. I have not seen other forums use % points in this fashion.
infernal dwarves had a neat chart of lists and what units were taken. They had a good spread for their core. No one even mentioned points.
But i disagree hard with you.
If 97 people dont take the unit and 3 people take the unit it clearly states the unit is NOT viable
But dont worry for the true data evaluation i take the approche just flo and co want.
Feel free to build a nice pie chart you have the stats
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