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  • Sorry duder, ETC + dissertation deadline + moving house + new job = little time for forums atm. @Lakson if you have time feel free to edit the OP with more links

  • ETC lists

    Fnarrr - - ETC

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    I think the issue was registration took place before list submission

  • My games were rather unimpressive, to the point where i don't even feel like writing the reports out atm scores were 16-15-12-10-10-9. The wins had some luck, the draws and the losses didn't. I honestly feel like I've milked out the all-comer dwarf list to the max im capable of. The current top 3 played insteresting and rather aggrressive lists, i think the reports they provide are more telling of where DH capacities lie. I would be curious as to how those guys rate their opponents, as none of t…

  • My three ETCs so far are 72-73-72. Sometimes I make top 3 dwarfs, sometimes not

  • [TOURNAMENT LISTS]

    Fnarrr - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from The Kremlin: “SA seem to have, as per usual, had a high scoring cluster then dropped off in the middle with a fair few quite low results. ” If you plot it on a scatter, its pretty much a straight line

  • Rules for becoming a captain for the ETC

    Fnarrr - - ETC

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    Its up to each individual country. The ETC recognizes the authority of the last captain from that country if there is ever some issue (like 2 teams) but i dont think that has ever happened.

  • [TOURNAMENT LISTS]

    Fnarrr - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Just_Flo: “I will sort it. But as already discussed team tourney means much less than single tourneys for our statistics and decisions. ” Bad times. Especially with the current ETC setup where everyone has to play every scenario.

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    Fnarrr - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Its not much of a source yet with over 1/3rd of the data missing. Wait for it to get sorted.

  • Quote from Aenarion43: “The take away from the ETC Item Breakdown is quite simple: Designing items for extreme niches or with significant conditions is undesirable for players, and leads to items not being taken. ” Is this correct? I would have thought the players who did find a use for those niche items were quite happy about it. I think an item seeing using at the ETC to begin with is generally already a sign that its not complete trash; but lets give the benefit of doubt if there's an outlier…

  • ^ especially if a change would be totally unnecessary You want your archers to be more of glass cannon? why?

  • +1 for short range.

  • Quote from Hoffa: “Readiness is one of those runes that looks like it is for one purpose but infact is for another. The point of the rune is to be able to change from a narrow formation for movement to a wide formation for fighting, not the other way around. My personal opinion is that the rune is to circumstantial to be of general use. ” Actually, the initial idea for it was to turn around if you get charged in the flank/rear. Its a good rune, but we came up with it before the Holdstone rework,…

  • @Peacemaker that's a lot of writing to wishlist for something that's already there. Dragon armour gives a 6+ aegis on top of the heavy armour, right?

  • On the other hand, it has a much higher threat range. That latter this is merely a point of preference, but I disagree with your premise. My original point was that for non-pathfinder shooty characters, there are 2 conceptual options: 1) steady output type 1: bigger stronger single shot (this is currently Lifeseed feathers) 2) burst damage: this is currently Hail Shot 3) steady output type 2: multiple shots <- currently covered by Pathfinder upgrade With that in mind, I was getting at that tryin…

  • Look at the S4 ap1 breath weapons costs in other books and see. Hail is better in that its got ap2. As for the chasis - the item can go on characters you've already taken, like a BSB or dragon lord.

  • Quote from Hachiman Taro: “Autumn Bite. Artefact. Enemy models suffer -1 Str (Min 1) for each unsaved wound caused to them by the bearer in the current round of combat. This item is to give SE characters a defensive option to make our characters a bit less "kill on the charge or don't get into combat" avoidy. It's obviously useless if you don't hit first though, . I changed it from a weapon (sylvan blade) enchantment because of the sense it was too weak taking away a weapon enchant for a defensi…

  • Quote from Chack: “Can you make some example of characters with the hail shot that you would consider worth to be fielded, also specify in which kind of unit they would be (if applicable). I ask because i can't really see any decent setup that use the hail shot (maybe on dragon lord, but even there i don't think is optimal). ” A BSB on foot with hail shot with either archers or skirmishers

  • Ahh its not QTF. But then its also slightly cheaper than I thought (for some reason I had 75 in my head) Moving penalty is -20% output, and the point still stands. As for opportunity cost - we were talking about shooty BSBs, where its a good fit if you want the burst rather than steady damage? So that's fine. It also goes well on Dragon lords, since they don't care about defensive equipment. It obviously won't fit on any combat character builds, which is fine as its not supposed to.

  • Quote from Wesser: “Lol No. Current Hail Shot is priced based on the potential of rolling 18 shots and shooting elven elites at Short Range.. as is all such items (not just ours) ” Its really not, what a terrible exaggeration. At short range - which is perfectly feasible - it does 10.5 shots average, which do 8.75 hits at S4 ap 2, which means it gets its points back against things like elven spearmen, and a much higher return on better targets which aren't just elite blocks but any sort of chaff…

  • That's fair enough Hachiman, but Lifeseed Feathers at the moment does this better - as it provides a "different type of build". Bow of any sort that provides multiple shots will just give more or less the same result as upgrading to a pathfinder.