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  • Quote from Maelstorm: “That deathstar is probably the hardest in the game, but is also slightly (very) expensive. ” prelate with death warrant is enough. Alchemy for +2 armour or reroll to wound. Cosmo for 5++. Maybe not the hardest but a lot of ppl only realize the brutality of this unit when their unit got wiped out in one round

  • Quote from Cortrillion: “It is ofc reflected in the price. A judge dread costs a wooping 24 points gaining only +1 M, +1ws, +2agi, hatred, lethal strike, multiwound and lightning reflexes. They lose 1 point of armour and bodyguard. The IG costs a meager 22 points. ” I cannot say if you're sarcastic here... I really think GW for IG is overcosted (especially as you replace the shield by GW) but I don't like sword and board neither... They really tank hard but they cannot make dmg

  • Quote from LostCause: “Yeah, might need to keep that one quiet from the TO ” maybe if it becomes legal soon, TO will forgive him. Btw what is the reason behind this restriction?

  • I always run my 4 KoTSG units with Stalker standard (there is always one or more ruins). But I can see why some ppl prefer discipline standard. According to Cavalry pick : +1S and Ap2 ... and if it is too strong (maybe? idk), +1S on charge and Ap2 all the time!

  • Fixing empire knights

    Gregus - - Empire of Sonnstahl (EoS)

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    Quote from LostCause: “if you think any major suggestion has ever gone through on its first request, you’re sadly mistaken. It’s the nature of the beast. That doesn’t mean he should stop or desist from the discussion. ” what I meant is that it seems that's the kind of changes that are for the full army book! Even if it is a bit demoralizing... i'll continue to propose thing! Hasta Siempre!

  • Quote from DanT: “Quote from Gregus: “I just played 2 games with an unit of 4 KotSG (musician + stalker std). They were disapointing both game. If they fight something with DWS 4 or more they will do nothing... . In one of my game they took 4 turns to kill gargantua (they had S6 every turn - perception of strenght). Empire units really need hatred but they cannot benefit from it... ” Couple of thoughts for you: 4 turns or 4 rounds of combat? The latter isn't totally unreasonable, but I think bel…

  • Fixing empire knights

    Gregus - - Empire of Sonnstahl (EoS)

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    Quote from Tiberius: “For those of you who have been engaging this topic for some time now (and I recognize a few of you) you'll undoubtedly recall how familiar this conversation is to the one I moderated that year or two back. Unless the RT has changed positions, the benefit of armour over skill was decided for EoS cavalry in core, and a streamlining of cavalry options. Are either of these really up for change at this point? (I've been out of the loop, so perhaps it has). T. ” This. All the pro…

  • I just played 2 games with an unit of 4 KotSG (musician + stalker std). They were disapointing both game. If they fight something with DWS 4 or more they will do nothing... . In one of my game they took 4 turns to kill gargantua (they had S6 every turn - perception of strenght). Empire units really need hatred but they cannot benefit from it...

  • Quote from DogOfWar: “The locket is good/bad depending on the match up. ” I had to so many bad experience with it... For example when my prelate wasn't abble to kill a skeletton champion while the VC was killing 10 IG per turn... . The wearer should be abble to decide if the characteristics are swapped...

  • Quote from Arosy: “Do you think talisman of shielding is enough protection for your wizard? ” No, obviously not. But I couldn't find the points for a death cheater With the nerf to "Ice &fire" I don't need a line of sight for my wizard and then, if there is too much threat for him, I can hide him. My army is quite defensive so I can deploy around a impassable terrain

  • This week end I'm going to a Team Tournament in Luxembourg (18 teams). Here is my list. I will tell you about the GW imperial guard... Empire of Sonnstahl [4496pts] Characters [1325pts] Marshal [310pts]: Army General, Shield [5pts], Death Warrant [55pts], Imperial Seal [90pts] Marshal [180pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Shield [5pts], Alchemist's Alloy [15pts] Prelate [200pts]: Plate Armour [20pts], Shield [5pts], Willow's Ward - Models on Foot only [15pts] Wizard [635pts]: Cosmology, Light Armour…

  • Quote from Fthunder: “Unfortunately I think that I will be boring and go back to Alchemy for my Wizard Master. ” Do you really think Cosmo is over? Don't you think it's still a very versatile path?

  • Either make it a chassis on which we can pay for what we want/need (look at infernal dwarves) OR Make it a monster with a rather High advance but poor march move (7 -10). Delete random move. Give him a flame thrower weapon to kill chaffs easily (range 12 - 2D6 hits S4 AP2) The rest stays the same. Price 375 ppm

  • But they are AP0. Only Dis 8 feels wrong to me... but the units are supposed to be autonomous so I guess it sounds right.

  • Quote from LostCause: “Quote from TurboTT: “I have bought the forge world dragon for empire and I cant wait to paint it up ” That'll be awesome! ” I have the FW Dragon too, painting is WIP (only pre shading done yet) Finding a good list with it might be harder than painting it

  • The fact is the actual design (good anvil with an average cannon and random mvt) makes it really difficult to price & to balance (old dmg chart, rather meh 4D3 mvt, ...). I agree that now we have a multifonctional unit (kind of both of 2 worlds as you said). But I guess would rather pay 300 points in Sunna fury for a good anvil & pay 250 for a cannon in arty rather than 450 for a Steam Tank with a Weaker Cannon

  • Quote from Izomov: “I'm with Arosy on this one, have the cannon as an upgrade that changes the movement from 3D6 to 4D3 and adds the, you know, cannon. Have it count as Sunnas Fury without the cannon, and Imperial Armoury with. Never both. ” That kind of solution has been proposed 1 million times... I would be surprised if nowaday it suddendly becomes something to look at (and I cannot figure out why... ) Don't get me wrong : I always loved this idea : raw chassis is in "sunna fury" (construct w…

  • Quote from Fthunder: “The great thing about getting @LostCause on board is that he had absolutely no influence on this 2.0 public beta testing book. He's the same as all of you guys and will be able to point out to me, @DanT and the army design team the things that really need fixing, without any problems of subjectivity! ” Nice self-criticism spirit. Good to read that. Welcome @LostCause

  • Quote from DanT: “EoS wizards can be any of the three levels. Arcane engines and prelates kept the channel ability. ” is there any army without Master?

  • Quote from Fthunder: “Not looking likely at this point. However, we are one of the armies to have a very cool and very strong magic item that can use veil tokens. ” something about stealing veil tokens from ennemy? It would be fluff Or is it some kind of Box of Aldred (steal / copy a spell ) or silver seal (dispell and if we pay Veil tokens, make the opponent forget the spell? ) Or the magical suitcase i've been asking for a looong time! Aaaaah when is the next spoilerrrr!!!!