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  • From Beer and Bretzle vol 2

    ferny - - User Blogs

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    Where did all those female dwarf models come from? I've never seen an army's worth before - is it a line, or are they all converted?

  • So I've got the go ahead...but flights out look really awkward. There looks to be a ryanair leaving manchester early on the friday morning (too early to be viable for me) but with a good return on Sunday, and I don't see anything else from Manchester and nothing at all from Liverpool. Alternatively there's Aer Lingus from Birmingham to Shannon, 16.55-18.35 and returning 19.00 on Sunday night, but that looks to be quite expensive (£176 start price, plus transport to Brum and parking), which I'm n…

  • @demgear - are there still spaces? I'm trying to make arrangements with my wife and work and house move.

  • @SmithF - will you also run through T1 for the hbe army following that T1? The way it is described things look dire, and I'm imagining that scenario now as if it were sent to you by the hbe player. @Arthur - I like your tackling of this and am interested to see more on the topic.

  • Quote from Arthur: “Quote from berti: “I also play elfen armies. All three of them, but mostly DE (because there I have a finished army, while the other two still miss some units). While I agree, that the infantry units suffer more from ranged damage in DE army the HbE are better suited to it (with FW having a 4+ward and lions having a 3+ armor against shooting). So basically you have to take into account a number of casualties when you face a shooty or magical oponent. Of course there can be sp…

  • @DanT how critical was the rending banner on your lancers (as opposed to spears, where I'd naturally put it?). And why rending over rhyma? Or even speed, to make those flank/long charges even easier?

  • Quote from DanT: “Divination is more about seeing the future I believe, and does not necessarily have a connection to deities. ” I think of this as much cosmology as divination. With regards to thaumaturgy, how does it differ from empire of sohnstall warrior priests? Where/how do they get their power from, and why does it manifest so differently from thaumaturgy mages? Another background question for thaum... All races will have religious piety, right? It will manifest differently, but they'll a…

  • Quote from PadForce: “Quote from DanT: “Quote from PTG-Lucky-Sixes: “@DanT In a lot of your games you say you buffed up the lancers and they smashed people up. What spells were key to this? And who was more importation in buffing them, the DMage or the MoCT? Thanks in advance By the way, love that you guys have come over to the HBE side! ” hereditary+regen for defence.2xspell giving +1 strength for offence. If ravens wing, lash, etc could be in a good enough position to draw out dispel dice then…

  • Ignore me. Hungover and misreading things.

  • Tagging you for the quote because it was truncated from Alex cats post.

  • Quote from AlexCat: “Quote: “Good question. I wrote a list with ~20lions and a wizard master on foot instead of the dragon. I think this list could have done similarly (albeit played a bit differently). ” My point was - expensive unit of infantry doesnt fit at all into the playstyle of zoning, board control and force concentration you were talking about. IMHO.Quesiton was - what to do with this problem. DE can build a coherent infantry battle line to advance with it. HBE cant and the elite infan…

  • Quote from Aegon: “Quote from ferny: “If I didn't take archers, how would I usefully fill core? ” That question is the main problem . Why should I have to "fill the core"? I want to achieve a situation, where I want to take archers because I need them. Quote from ferny: “Also...if we want to move away from shooty counter-punch, making archers better won't help here. ” It could, if you would limit the amount of shooting available. At the same time, there should be the option to increase this limi…

  • Quote from Aegon: “ Give Helms Fight in Extra Rank OR Devastating Charge (+1A). Give Archers Accurate. 20 man unit of Spearmen is fine currently (at 12pts / model), just keep that cost above 20 and you will see more big blocks of spearmen. ” I used to agree that archers *needed* accurate. I'm not sure I do any more. I can't remember the last time I took a HBE list without at least one unit of archers, which serve to clear chaff, bunker and potentially whittle down units which I don't want to dea…

  • Quote from AlexCat: “Quote: “This is heavily dependent on the players knowledge of the game and the armies in question. For players who both know the core rules as well as their and each others armies a standard 4500 game rarely last longer than 2h from deployment to finish. E ” Thats not true. ” This. @Giladis - I know some quick players for whom this might hold true, but we're a mile off 2hr games including deployment. 2 players doing 6 turns = 12 turns. 2hrs would be 10 minutes per player tur…

  • Quote from DanT: “@ferny I was looking at something vaguely like this. But I never iterated it because it wasn't what I was looking for. It might just turn out to be terrible on the table of course, it was never tested. Wizard master-heirloom 420 High Prince, General, MoCT, destiny call, spear, blazing spear 640 Bsb-queens companion, longbow, moonlight arrows 260 20 Spears-stan, mu 280 12 lancers-fc, ryma 657 5 reavers-bows 190 17 QG-mu 508 Sloop 265 Rbt 180 5 ryma knights 340 20 lionguard-FC, b…

  • Quote from DanT: “ Quote from ferny: “I'd be interested why you don't think HBE are/will be your preferred style? As you're playing your way through the books, and each book has (or ought to have) several styles available, you've got a good experience with a breadth of options. What sort of styles do you prefer? ” I like low risk/high survivability per point, preferably MMU with a good magic phase.I have actually written a HBE list that kinda does this, but I'm refusing to use this because the p…

  • Quote from DanT: “Oooh, that was an unexpected tagging.I am summoned; tell me your 3 wishes* dear sir But yes, I have found "bug or feature" is in general a useful thing to ask in design discussions. Not that I really have any formal training or real world experience, I just make it up as I go along. * : I accept no liability for any unfulfilled wishes or expectations resulting from the fact that I have asked you for 3 wishes. ” I only want a quiet life, I should know better than summoning a gen…

  • Quote from My_Kin: “I think one thing that really drove away players from HBE when the hotfix happened, wasn't so much that the hotfix didn't seem to be based on any data, just whining of non hbe players on these forums, or even that the hotfix was so ham handed in it's writing. It was that there didn't seem to be any admission that the powers to be had screwed up, it was the most kneejerk reaction to a book that the community was happy with, and showed genuine community engagement and creativit…

  • Quote from PadForce: “As i have asked before i would love to know if the project has information from the website on the drop of activity within the hbe sub forum. Case in point: how many people do you think voted in the hbe awsr poll? 66 voted in the latest two polls. It would be an interesting barometer. ” You could ask in the website forum, but would be worthwhile looking at changes across all army sub forums (I think less activity as the game matures and rules become more fixed), and overall…

  • I'd still buy stuff. I'm not that keen on those models, but whenever a good deal comes up second hand I have to remind my self I own too many hbe already and I still sometimes buy more.