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    Contests

    If you want to boost your artwork production (and particularly for fringe areas lacking illustrations, such as Taphria) you might want to consider launching various concept artwork contests, where anyone may enter with everything from a quick sketch, through a blueprint, a cosmological mandala artwork or cryptic diagram, to an inked or painted illustration. If you feel like it, then just include a paragraph whereby entering the contest, entrants give T9A right to use their artwork as it sees fit, or by entering everyone and their grandmother may use the artwork, so better put your signature on it if you want to get future credit. Or something in that vein. Lawyer's language.

    Overall, it seems that contests, and particularly contests with prizes, drum up extra efforts among some members by giving them a common goal to contend for and an excuse to dabble with this or that project which they otherwise might not have tackled. Contests are a good way to harness creative energies.


    Such official T9A contests ought to be announced on the front page, aside from any potential forum announcement. You might wish to ponder whether to launch separate/parallel army specific contests, or keep it centralized in one big string of competitions which generally keeps the theme open to any and all armies (including completely original faction designs by the members themselves, e.g. fishmen), or perhaps cycle through armies, regions, themes (e.g. battle, camp life, duel, magic, exploration, flight). You might want to experiment with both variants, or something else completely, and see what garners most interest.

    You might also wish to drop a sticky-thread in the Company section where miniature companies can contact some contest organizer for prize donations. Perhaps keep a record of all such donations in the said thread, first post. Ideally you'd have at least one miniature prize for each contest, but one can run without prizes if need be. Just remember, that whoever organizes the contest don't vote himself, but keeps back his vote in case some awkward tie pops up.

    Onward, you'd ideally want to have a Hall of Fame gallery for contest winners, bronze-silver-gold, as well, easily visible in some frontpage manner. Not a must, but a neat extra feature which makes the piled-up work of contests into a compiled resource in and of itself for T9A site. Just make sure it's not a pain in the neck to update; keep it smooth, or else ignore if it is too much of a hassle to bother with. Also, always link to the entries, in effect the voting threads, for each contest in any potential Hall of Fame gallery or compilation thread.

    Obviously, contests for painting/modelling miniatures and contests for background/story writing (or even wacky homebrew rules writing contests?) could be of interest for T9A to run somewhat regularly, in due time.

    Oh, and always whip up a contest banner. It draws the eye and make it look more interesting!

    Here is an example of what an artwork competition may produce, and here is another. A few samples:





    Comps are fun occasions, produce lots of wacky and neat stuff and gives the community some focal point where those who wish can pour their energies in something of a desktop Olympic spirit.

    And for the record, I'm simply looking at what long-established features of Chaos Dwarfs Online might suit T9A. CDO has for its entire time been a hotbed of creativity, thanks to being dedicated to a niche army left out in the cold. Chaos Dwarf collectors had to fence for themselves and get creative, and they succeeded very well indeed: There are some design elements in FW's CD range which obviously were inspired by some creations or artworks on CDO (such as horned bull centaurs, hexagonal scalemail).

    Now that the entire Warhammer fantasy community has been thrown into the same spot as Chaos Dwarf collectors has stood in for years on end, it's natural to look to what the CD folk came up with to keep the embers hot and flesh out their orphaned archetype in ever more depth and detail.

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    I can help you write together a template for contests to make it run much by copy-paste for whoever handles it, and I'll also volunteer to handle at least a couple of contests (if temporary mod powers is necessary to not have the contest host having to rely on asking others for help with setting stuff up, then so be it; I'm only a Staff member on CDO to help run contests). Just say the word, but I'd rather know there is team interest in this before writing a draft (brainstorming and idea sharing like this is quick 'n' fun, rulesy writing is tedious and slow): Please tell.

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    Likewise, if modelling/miniature & scenery painting competitions would be desired, then that may be discussed here as well if you want. But if one was to choose only one kind of contest to further the cause of the Ninth Age, then it would be artwork competitions. Illustrations and lack thereof are what makes or breaks quality content!

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    Some cautionary notes on having too strict limits in contests. Modelling competitions below, copy-pasted from Chaos Dwarfs Online, but you can easily see how it may apply to art contests as well. Note that T9A should not enforce legal basing if it is to run modelling competitions, even though we have such a strict system in place (naturally, given the rules). Modelling and painting contests should be all about the models, and not whether they fit legally into any specific wargame, not even our own. Of course, that doesn't stop the AoS grudge from making people vote less for round bases (seen that happen, but human nature is what it is).


    KNC wrote:

    Overlord Gentlemen,

    One feature of developments in wargaming in later years have been the manifold ways of basing (in particular Kings of War's diorama-inviting regiment bases & round bases in Age of Sigmar), which kicked the legs out from under the old CDO rules revolving around Warhammer Fantasy base standards.

    I know there have been some rows unnecessarily over base limits in previous contests, and it would seem we lost the splendid hobbyist in long-time member GRNDL over Hellcannon base measurements, the original contest limits of which weren't even exceeded as noted by Nicodemus.

    For better and worse, one underlying tendency in CDO contests have been to micromanage limits and control in detail to achieve fairness across the board. When picking up contests in 2014, I studied our previous competitions and tried to keep up continuity, while experimenting and allowing for rules changes when called for. It's all been tinkering done on the fly, and things have slowly changed through this process.

    One trend that has been constant through the competitions I've run, is launching a seemingly well-defined theme, and then having one or more of our many creative members come up with some take that straddles the limits of said theme, but in the final analysis should be let in. Confer e.g. change from artillery slaves to warmachine slaves in one contest (that particular theme was entirely experimental, by the way).

    Likewise, The_Penguin is a member who was into vignettes when he last posted, and thus had no use for bases. What did it matter if he entered a miniature without a base?

    All things taking together, basing in contests have been loosened, indeed even cut loose as of GH XXX.

    There is no longer any wargaming rationale behind asking for e.g. square or round bases, or certain measurements of bases for various unit types. Many people will still keep basing reasonable as regards wargames, since they will adher to whatever standards happen to be in place for whatever rule systems they play. Yet as to those who choose a base not for sake of wargaming strictures but for modelling aesthetics, or those who eschew bases altogether? Why would it matter for us to cut them out or force them to adapt to base standards against their honest hobby interests?

    Indeed, why would we want to discourage people from making dioramas if that is what they want to do? Dioramas are laboursome visual spectacles, and wouldn't we want to see more of those for our evil midgets? With Kings of War on the scene, dioramas are even baked into regiments nowadays.



    This infantry character model may have been disqualified from past Golden Hats.


    There has been a well-intended chase for fairness and level playing-field in contests, aye, in days past there has even been a chase for promoting Chaos Dwarfs as a respectable force to be established as a serious army list complete with base formalities in place (and CDO, as we know, crowned this across-the-board effort when Forgeworld released Throne of Tamurkhan).

    Yet I know from observations and firsthand experience that this philosophy has occassionally sown strife, or discouraged members from entering, or forced them to rebase something after the contest because their entry wasn't based the way they themselves wanted the model to be.

    All this, while what we're all really looking for in contests is a good excuse for people to break out their paintbrushes and get creative in fun competition. :hat off

    As you can see, limits on basing are gone. Starting with Golden Hat XXX, being an open theme, we'll also try out allowing plinths and display bases if anyone would like to go the extra length. While running contrary to established Chaos Dwarfs Online practice, it would seem to be in our interest to allow people to create really polished entries - such gems further the cause of Chaos Dwarfs, as we all know well from Golden Demon!




    We're also open to all scales. Anyone wanting to enter Warmaster, 15mm or 52mm scale Chaos Dwarfs are welcome to do so. Interest in such niche scales is so small that it would not be sensible to run specific, rare competitions just for oddscale models.

    Finally, an art-theme Artisan's Contest is now an annual event. Generates drawings, sketches and paintings, among the the most valuable material we can hope for.

    Kind regards,

    Matte

  • What we need to launch the first official T9A Art Contest:
    • For the specific contest account, we'd need to create some E-mail or another. The creation of the E-mail account and dependent T9A account (and maybe Imgur account?) will be up to site Staff to handle. The contest organizer (me as a lab rat volunteer for the first comps) will need to know log-in info for this T9A account (and Imgur account), but not Email password.
    • Settling the below rules & guidelines draft.
    • Whip up some contest banner (keeping in style with T9A logos, so this is also on your folk). Generic banner used for every competition, or a different one for each new Art Contest? Perhaps some T9A staffer/artist can whip up a series of banners that are identical bar the contest number, ranging from Art Contest I up to perhaps XX (Roman numerals please), so that a long time can pass before the need for new style-appropriate banners can become a bottleneck task for new contests.
    • Make a draft for the first Art Contest (I'll do it soon), review and approve it. I'll chuck in some prizes this first round, and we'll see if other miniature companies and generous private hobbyists follow suit.
    • Set up some standard way in which contests are to be announced. I propose creating a Contest forum under Announcements in the forums, for all announcement, voting and winners threads, and also general info stuck such as the draft below. This will be the workplace for the contest organizer. Set up some way for any new contest thread to be announced on T9A first page, e.g. by giving contest organizers whatever mod powers and bare minimum knowledge are necessary for that, as long as they handle contests; or by having at least three different mods (redundancy here is key!) established as the go-to staff for contest organizers to poke and ask for a frontpage announcement to be made whenever a new Contest thread is up.
    Of course, T9A may decide that having a Contest forum at the top of the forums section under Announcements is enough, and that messages about it should not clog up the front page. That is fine as well.

    Once all this groundwork has been laid and routines established, most of the future will be rather quick copy-paste work and some contest theme brainstorming and selection.

    Thoughts?

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    Here is a draft for all the background rulesy stuff, based on this model. Info, guidelines, rules, FAQ. On CDO, this would be put in a separate thread and linked to at every new contest, with entrants asked to have read it all before entering. On T9A, it is also possible to instead put the below general information and rules within spoiler tags in each and every contest announcement. Which is preferred?

    Anything needs adding or changing? Any legal stuff to iron out?

    Note: Create Contest forum under Announcements? Subforum? Somewhere else? Could serve as a platform for possible writing and modelling/painting competitions as well. But art contests foremost, they benefit the 9th Age project the most.

    Words within [] are proposals and to-do names that need to be changed, approved or linked in the final version.


    Draft wrote:

    Everything you need to know about the Ninth Age Art Contests


    What are these contests?

    The Art Contests are competitions where anyone registered at T9A can enter with everything from sketches, through blueprints, maps, cosmological mandala artworks or cryptic diagrams, to inked or painted illustrations.

    The competitions are always announced on the front page and hosted in the [Contest] section under [Spotlight]. We officially announce the contest, with a deadline. After this has closed we start a thread with the entries and a request for people to vote, then after the voting has closed we start a third thread announcing the winner(s).


    What can I enter?

    Each contest will have a specific theme. An entry that bears absolutely no relation to the theme (unless it is called an ‘open contest’) will not be allowed. Artworks have to be fully created by the person entering them.

    T9A Art Contests are always fantasy related. You cannot enter science fiction artworks or pieces depicting the modern world.

    Your art does not have to be drawn/ painted by hand, it can be drawn on a computer. HOWEVER, every part of the image has to be produced by you, you cannot merge/ edit existing artwork done by someone else.

    If you put a decorative border on, or some text etc, you have to produce this all by hand, design it all yourself (you cannot just type it in on a computer).

    Artworks must be still images. Even if you create a 3D-file, .gif file or moving picture sequence, only a still image from this can be entered.

    You are allowed to include several different art elements in a single picture file (e.g. two illustrations; a map and a sketch; or a drawing and some sketches leading up to a fully fleshed-out painting). Very productive artists could potentially enter a long file filled with various concept artwork, and this is fine, but most will limit themselves to one or a mere few pieces of art. Note that sheer mass may not always work to one's advantage for winning votes.

    You may include textual notes and explanations if you so desire. Please keep it short. This is not a writing competition.

    You cannot enter 3D sculpts of e.g. clay or green stuff, or diorama shots of miniatures against a painted background.

    You may enter flat stone and wood (relief) carvings. You may enter flat textile art akin to the embroidered Bayeux tapestry. Please, no pictures of entire dress creations or a whole cottage decorated as if by artists in the Ninth Age, but rather closeups of 2D art depicting scenes, figures and ornamental patterns: Ask the contest organizer if you are uncertain.


    When can I enter?

    The deadline will always be clear in the announcement thread. It is always based on Eastern Standard Time. So regardless of where in the world you are you need to look up how far ahead or behind this time you are to make sure you get your entry in on time.

    No entry regardless of how cool will be allowed to enter after the deadline. There are no exceptions. If someone has made a valid attempt to enter before the deadline but have had technical issues (such as links being invalid), they will normally be allowed.


    How do I enter?

    You enter by personal message. First you have to upload 1 picture of your entry to a hosting site. For instance imgur.com/ or photobucket.com/. These are both free hosting sites.

    To enter the contest all you need to do is simply click the link provided (it will always be to the [‘Staff’] account) and send the link to the picture file. The contest organizer may contact you to instead have your file sent via E-mail, should some transfer trouble occur.


    What happens after I have entered?

    The personal messages all sit in the [Staff] inbox until after the deadline has passed. After this time the contest organizer will look through them all and start to save all the entries to his computer. If you need to do something specific, such as providing a replacement file for a very wide picture distorted by an image hosting site, the contest organizer will send you a PM. It is expected that people will answer any and all questions about their entry (and do what is required) within 48 hours of the competition closing. If they don’t, perhaps because they have not logged in since, the contest organizer will either make a decision themself or potentially disallow the entry.

    Once we have all the entries, the contest organizer may decide to do some editing to make them look better for the site (e.g. by restructuring a very wide entry of multiple little art pieces into a vertically long one) or for fairness' sake. See rules below for more on this.

    The contest organizer will then make a thread with all the entries and request people to start voting (see how to vote below). After the voting has closed the organizer will collate all the votes into a spreadsheet to find the total votes for each entry. Note that this is something all staff members can check, there is no vote rigging here! ;) Finally we announce the winners, the voting key and notify sponsors to send out donated prizes.


    How do I vote?

    The voting will be done by personal message. Send a PM to the [Staff] account with the 3 entries you consider are best, whatever that means to you. You don’t need to rank them, or give reasons why. You must place three votes, don't know who deserves your last vote? Choose one at random.

    You are not allowed to vote on your own entry in competitions.


    > Anonymity Rules

    You cannot put your username the image. If this can be cropped out the entry will be allowed, if it cannot it won’t be.

    The competition is supposed to be anonymous, so please do not post pictures of your entry online until after the voting has ended. Do not start a WIP blog of your entry as you make it, we may not allow it to be entered.

    If you have just finished an artwork that is ideal for the competition, but have already posted it in the forum just ask one of the staff if it is ok to enter it still. Preferably people will not say which entry is theirs until voting is over, but this is not 'rule breaking'.


    > Artistic interpretation

    We encourage creativity, so when we say (for example) 'the theme is Taphria', this means people are free to interpret this however they want, as long as it still looks Taphrian themed: This could include artwork featuring native denizens of Taphria, such as the Human realms of Koghi or Vanhu; or the fabled Dwarves of Kegiz Gavem; or the sentient Mukumbusu Apes; or wildlife and nature. It could also include artwork featuring outsiders in Taphria, such as Infernal Dwarves or Dread Elves landing on Taphrian shores; Sonnenstahlers trekking through jungles; or Highborn Elves battling with native Anteater Vermin Hordes. Or even clearly Taphrian objects on display in far-off lands.

    Bear in mind that people will be considering how well your entry fits the theme when they are voting.

    If you are in doubt please ask the contest organizer, otherwise you risk having your entry disqualified if it is too far from the theme.


    > Rights to Use Artwork

    Note that by the very act of entering a T9A Art Contest, you give the Ninth Age in particular, and anyone who feels like it in general, the right to use any of your artwork submitted in an entry, including for illustrating army books and compendia. Preferably such persons will take effort to give you due credit and even notify you when such art of yours feature in some work or another. However, better leave your signature (not your T9A username) somewhere in the artwork, to ensure you are always credited indirectly.

    One reason for the existence of T9A Art Contests is to generate lots of new creative material that can help flesh out parts of the setting which have rarely, if ever, been seen before in illustrations or concept art. View this as a chance for your art to make it into army books and like publications!


    FAQ

    Where did I come in the ranking? How many votes did I get?
    Both of these are done by private message for whoever asks. We don’t list where people come publically, unless they are in the top three. Occasionally we say who came 4th/5th.

    Why doesn’t T9A have a judging panel?
    This is something that has been asked a few times. T9A is a community for the many, not for the few. Because of this, we think it is vital that the community decide what entries are best by a majority vote and it’s not done subjectively by a small panel of people (who cannot obviously have entered themselves).

    Why doesn’t T9A have multiple categories depending on skill?
    This is more work than it’s worth and the current system of voting doesn’t always favour the same people over and over. Having a category that only one person wanted to enter would be stupid and people would resent being moved into that category if they knew they would lose. At the end of the day even a master artist can only submit one entry, leaving all the other places up for grabs.

    I never seem to win.
    Not a question as such… We may not all be great painters and draftsmen, but the taking part is what counts and not only do you get to improve your skills but you also get your own artwork at the end of it. You may eventually get a random draw prize for your troubles. So all the effort is not wasted and it can be all you need to motivate you to actually craft some art!

    The post was edited 8 times, last by Karak Norn Clansman ().

  • Art Contest I Draft

    Swell!

    Proposal for the first Art Contest. Thoughts, critique, ideas?


    [BANNER]

    Exploring the world of the Ninth Age
    __________________________________

    The Ninth Age Presents: Art Contest I!

    Beset Expedition

    The theme for this competition is: Beset expedition. Interpret it as you want: It could include a small band of adventurers or survivors from a larger starting force making their way into dungeons; an army freezing to death in a snowstorm or on the brink of collapsing from heat and thirst in a desert; a band of explorers hacking their way through jungle; an expeditionary fleet beset by storms, foes, pirates or monsters upon the high seas; a column ambushed by foes in hostile lands; a force trapped within a magical labyrinth; concepts for expeditionary gear presented as remains of a lost expedition; or even a returning expedition or one about to set off having its leader confronted by debtors or a royal messenger with an urgent counter-decree; or something else entirely. As long as it's fantasy, the sky is the limit!

    This can be done by drawing, sketching or painting it (i.e. no miniature entries). Digital tools are allowed, and some scribblings as seen on many concept sketches are likewise allowed, but please keep any text amount low. The amount of work invested in the art entry can vary from a simple sketch up to a full-blown illustration. Flat embroidered textile art (e.g. in Bayeux tapestry style) close-up shots and flat relief carvings are allowed, but for these materials you're encouraged to ask the contest organizer first with some details explaining your plans. Note that several different art pieces are allowed to be included in one and the same image file entry, e.g. two different painted illustrations, or a bunch of sketches leading up to an inked drawing. Sheer mass is no guarantee for advantage in voting, however.

    If you are unsure if your entry will fit the subject matter, then please contact [the contest organizer].

    Prizes

    The gold winner will recieve one kit of 12 unpainted Slave Orc Heads:


    Furthermore, the silver winner will receive one kit of 2 unpainted Hobgoblin Slavedrivers:


    And the bronze winner will receive 1 unpainted Elf Heavy Archer:


    While one random entrant will win a kit of 4 unpainted Tjubling Fireguard Hammers:


    Should you wish to donate a prize to this or future contests, please PM [Staff account?].

    Deadline

    The deadline for the submission of entries is the 4th of July 2018 at 11:59pm EST.



    Rules of the Competition

    Each member may only enter once.

    Sketch, draw, paint and use digital tools to come up with an artwork or concept image of one or more beset expeditions.

    Submissions should include one picture file only. Your one picture file with art may contain any number of objects, figures and scenes.

    You may not submit a picture of a drawing or painting that have been entered into other online competitions or posted in a finished state before.

    Don't post your entries in the forum before the contest is over.

    See also the [General Rules & Guidelines.]

    How to Enter?

    Submit your entry by sending a PM to [Staff] (a special user that all Staff have access to) with one link or image of your entry. Please do not send an e-mail to any of the admin or staff accounts as this is a sure fire way to have your entry missed.

    How will this be judged?

    Sometime after the due date we will post all entries to a new thread and voting can commence!

    Good luck everyone!
    T9A Team

    The post was edited 7 times, last by Karak Norn Clansman ().

  • Hmmm...
    What about making a contest for something really useful, and in need?
    See the News for our firs company-made quality Gold Print, to see what I mean.

    Social Media Team

    UN Coordinator, aka UNSG

    - druchii.net contribution: The 9th Age - Dread Elves
  • That is certainly what we want to do, but would it be best to have a more open, non-faction specific theme for the first contest to better establish it by drawing a larger crowd to the premier? And then get more specific for most future competitions?

    I'll whip up a faction-specific draft, reporting later.

    The post was edited 2 times, last by Karak Norn Clansman ().

  • Faction Specific Draft

    Here is an example with Vanhu Kingdoms. Thoughts? And what factions or areas would you like to see covered for the first contest(s)? :)

    Note that we can as well pluck Koghi, Northern Dwarves, Kegiz Gavem, Hetmanate of Ukray or some other officially endorsed homebrew faction to the fore. We'd like to do an inordinate amount of art contests around Taphria, at least for the first few years, since there is precious little at all in the vein of fantasy art based on historical Africa complete with its folklore and mythologies (and we're lucky to have ongoing efforts as of presently to cover this in T9A). The situation is better for everything Norse in particular, but we're also lacking Eastern European fantasy art and fantasy art for various Asian cultures.

    For freshness and variety's sake we'd better sprinkle the themes about so that we don't have e.g. two Taphrian-specific contests in a row, but insert some general non-region contest theme, or perhaps an Augean or Vetian Art Contest between two Taphrian ones. We should be playing the long game and aim at amassing a wealth of community-produced artwork over time, in a way that helps keep up interest in the Art Contests. Say that we run 8 (random number) Art Contests one year, and for that year want extra attention to be given to Taphrian factions in the first place, and then some other homebrew ones. We could then sprinkle them out e.g. Taphria-general theme-Taphria-Augea-established army-Vetia-Taphria-general theme (each continent/world part theme in this example is actually something specific like Koghi, Kegiz Gavem, Northern Dwarves, Ukray, equivalent of India etc.), or even up Taphrian themes to 4 out of 8, though such a high ratio might want to be avoided. Later on, if Art Contests prove popular enough and become a standing feature, we'd expect to grow beyond a need for slant of many contests toward any particular region or faction.

    Remember that by fleshing out seemingly peripheral factions in more and more rich detail and imagery, you can end up making them become a mainstream part of the setting and even armies played. We're all familiar with Chaos Dwarfs in Warhammer being a rare exotic sight back in the day, but has grown popular in the CDO-fuelled lead-up to Throne of Tamurkahn, and especially after Forgeworld's range was released. In T9A, it is no accident that Infernal Dwarves are one of the official armybooks. Obviously models were driving in this development, but the background and artwork played an important part, not least because they informed the models and helped captur people's imagination (to thus buy models).

    Draft below. Anything to add? Too length? This proposal include inspiration links and some quick explanation (incl. for what other region cultures are covered by other homebrew factions) followed by a list of examples to hopefully help someone somewhere think outside the box and fire up his imagination:




    [BANNER]

    Exploring the world of the Ninth Age
    __________________________________

    The Ninth Age Presents: Art Contest I!

    Vanhu Kingdoms

    The theme for this competition is: Vanhu Kingdoms, the Realms of Cattle and Gold. See this thread for compiled inspirational material (primarily first page and not least post #4 for reference images, and the latest version of the homebrew Army Book). Real-life basis for the Vanhu are Maasais, Zulus and Great Zimbabwe of southern Africa. Do not be shy of inventing your own takes on anything with the Vanhu, including wild high fantasy concepts and glancing at other real-life tribes and kingdoms for inspiration. Note that fantasy parallels to historical west African empires and cultures are covered in the Ninth Age by the Koghi Empire, not the Vanhu Kingdoms, while Ethiopia is represented by the Dwarven Kegiz Gavem.

    Entries could be anything from warriors and fantasy elements for the Vanhu army; to battle scenes of clashes between Vanhu and other factions; or depictions of scenes in Vanhu life such as religious rituals, village living, hunt for monsters or a Wise Man communing with the animal spirits; cattle rustling; Vanhu landscape scenes (better include some people or buildings); sketches of Vanhu items, body paint patterns and clothing styles; Vanhu vanquished at the hands of others; scenes of trade with foreigners; depictions of Vanhu mythological events; or something else entirely. Civilian, military or mystical: Everything is welcome!

    This can be done by drawing, sketching or painting it (i.e. no miniature entries). Digital tools are allowed, and some scribblings as seen on many concept sketches are likewise allowed, but please keep any text amount low. The amount of work invested in the art entry can vary from a simple sketch up to a full-blown illustration. Flat embroidered textile art (e.g. in Bayeux tapestry style) close-up shots and flat relief carvings are allowed, but for these materials you're encouraged to ask the contest organizer first with some details explaining your plans. Note that several different art pieces are allowed to be included in one and the same image file entry, e.g. two different painted illustrations, or a bunch of sketches leading up to an inked drawing. Sheer mass is no guarantee for advantage in voting, however.

    If you are unsure if your entry will fit the subject matter, then please contact [the contest organizer].

    Prizes

    The gold winner will recieve one kit of 12 unpainted Slave Orc Heads:


    Furthermore, the silver winner will receive one kit of 2 unpainted Hobgoblin Slavedrivers:


    And the bronze winner will receive 1 unpainted Elf Heavy Archer:


    While one random entrant will win a kit of 4 unpainted Tjubling Fireguard Hammers:


    Should you wish to donate a prize to this or future contests, please PM [Staff account?].

    Deadline

    The deadline for the submission of entries is the 4th of July 2018 at 11:59pm EST.



    Rules of the Competition

    Each member may only enter once.

    Sketch, draw, paint and use digital tools to come up with artwork or concept image(s) for Vanhu Kingdoms.

    Submissions should include one picture file only. Your one picture file with art may contain any number of objects, figures and scenes.

    You may not submit a picture of a drawing or painting that have been entered into other online competitions or posted in a finished state before.

    Don't post your entries in the forum before the contest is over.

    See also the [General Rules & Guidelines.]

    How to Enter?

    Submit your entry by sending a PM to [Staff] (a special user that all Staff have access to) with one link or image of your entry. Please do not send an e-mail to any of the admin or staff accounts as this is a sure fire way to have your entry missed.

    How will this be judged?

    Sometime after the due date we will post all entries to a new thread and voting can commence!

    Good luck everyone!
    T9A Team

    The post was edited 2 times, last by Karak Norn Clansman ().

  • Karak Norn Clansman wrote:

    ...or some other officially endorsed homebrew faction
    For these words not to be an oxymoron would require a steep change in the current stance.
    At the moment, there is no encouragement for Homebrew and insufficient eagerness to give to the wide community any more active role.
    I am trying to prove with the Taphrian series that the community can do better than what the "higher ups" think, but we're not yet there.

    -=-=-

    Karak Norn Clansman wrote:

    Human organization. You gotta love bureaucracy with all sending the ball between sections. :D
    As this would be in the realm of @Eternal Flitter and he did not react, the next step may be to empower more those goodwilling in the community.
    What about upgrading, let's say... "you!" :largegrin: with more power to do what seems to inspire you?
    You already have @'Bugman''s blessing for some publicity, i.e. news advertisement relayed on other social media.
    You may ask @'Ghiznuk' for a bit of help in the brainstorming side, he is always good at letting free reins to his creativity.
    What else would you need?

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  • That oxymoron was tongue in cheek: It mainly just meant homebrew brainstorming for factions/lands that will actually be in the official Ninth Age setting on the map (as opposed to entirely home-cooked stuff such as the Void), even if the brainstorming from an official point of view is about extracting lots of reference material and proposals to present to the team rather than an officially stamped end product. A step in-between official and purely fan-made, if you will, in that this middle ground has a chance of it becoming official.

    Well, sure, I'm game if someone can give me a little tour of what power buttons I need to know to handle the practicalities of contest running on my own (obviously with feedback and brainstorming with team members and ordinary members on the side; but we're speaking executive powers here to get the show rolling). I've never been hacked and my brother and friends have never played nasty games with my computer while I've had my back to them, so at least that speaks for any mod powers granted not being likely to get hijacked to the detriment of T9A.

    I'm actually not sure what I'd need when it comes to powers. On CDO there are two levels of Staff, mods and admins. I got made an (auxiliary) mod to handle contests there in 2014, but it turned out some small features such as handing out CDO medals could only be done by an admin, so a further promotion was necessary in order to not have me dependent and asking of somebody else every time there was a contest concluded. Shallow promotion even if some CDO members thought it "deserved", since it was only to smooth out contest running and I never do policing (apart from deleting spambots) in any case. I've no idea how T9A site is built up, and my technical know-how on everything computer related is very limited, but from this narrow perspective I'll try to deduce what is needed:

    1. Creating a T9A Contest account with all necessary powers to launch, run and conclude contests on its own. While the contest organizer (I'll volunteer for an undefined number of contests, but in the long run the idea is to establish a fun and productive routine embraced by T9A team as a whole, so that the organizer can step down while the show keeps steaming.) Also an Imgur account registered on the same Contest account's new E-mail. This account can be used for modelling/painting and writing competitions in the future as well.
    2. Access to this empowered T9A account and Imgur account. Need no access to the underlying E-mail address it's registered on, that remains T9A staff's safekeeping. You keep the key.
    3. Clear and simple instructions of which team members to turn to whenever a new Contest thread is launched (announcement, voting, winners), for them to send out quick social media messages. Outreach is king.
    4. A separate Contest forum set up in Spotlight at the top of the forum list. I think it's best to avoid a subforum to Announcements, to not clog that channel up. (Likewise, I'll leave it up to the above mentioned contact person/s what, if any, contest-related news go on the front page: Risk of clogging it up if every contest thread is to be announced there? We'd better announce the launch of the very first Art Contest also on T9A front page, however, to get the premier signal out better.) Obviously powers to post new contests here through the staff Contest account.
    5. T9A logo-similar contest banners. Preferably at least 20 ones, identical bar the contest numbering: I to XX. Roman numerals or bust. If anyone could whip up as many as 50 and put them in an Imgur album and Google Drive folder, then that would be great: It will keep us afloat without having to ask for new help, for years to come.
    6. Lesson on T9A's built-in picture voting (if this gets used, otherwise we can run with PM). However, I'd like to keep the model of three votes per voter as from CDO, unless we'd any time happen to get, say, 5 or less entries (then it's 1 vote per head).
    7. Optionally: Help from knowledgeable staff/homebrewers to come up with region/faction-specific contest themes (this is less necessary, but good to have), and a shorthand presentation of this or that T9A faction (e.g. Vanhu or China-equivalent) complete with links to (homebrew) army book drafts and compilations of reference picture and reference background (historical/real world or made up during homebrewing) to help inspire entrants and give a clue to things they weren't familiar with before. I may cut down and tweak such a presentation for the contest announcements, but the essentials should be there.


    We can keep this thread for brainstorming and feedback, and use the Contest section only for the actual contests themselves, and the general rules sticky.

    Also, when launching contests we might hope for illustrations useful for specific army book usage (e.g. art of unit entries), but better keep the theme open enough for people to run free and come up with creative stuff out of the box. So with e.g. a Northern Dwarves theme we'd not require people to illustrate warriors and war, but allow them to do civilian stuff and whetever they fancy. Also, when in doubt if an entry fits the theme, it's usually the case that it's best to let it in and let voters decide how fitting it is for the theme.

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    I have good reasons to believe that official endorsement is critical to the success of this venture. Running contests on your own and proving them unsupported, growing them as you go (as I was once told to do when proposing 40k/Necromunda art contests on DakkaDakka, mainly because you can't propose them on Deviantart...) is starting unnecessarily much uphill. Snazzy banner, prize sponsor, official announcements: It all contributes. Gotta look professional, gotta look the part.

    Also, I view contest rules as something that can be tinkered with to improve, based on feedback and own conclusions. We should be open to change rules between contests, but the rule of Use of Artwork must be adamant to harvest art from contests.


    And yes, @Ghiznuk, we summon thee! We'll also summon other homebrewers for future rounds, and try and summon relevant T9A developers whenever we do art contests for established mainstream factions such as Dread Elves, Sonnenstahl or Vetian Dwarves (these will be less numerous, since we're aiming to flesh out largely unexplored areas here). Cheers

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  • tiny wrote:

    There is even an website add on to support picture voting contests we already have payed for but never used.

    I look up details tomorrow
    I believe it was this one:
    pluginstore.woltlab.com/file/2404-uz-image-contest/

    Please check it out and let me know if it would help you.
  • @tiny: Yes, this seems to be useful in every way from the description. We'll have to see how the thread creation through feature mentioned in it pans out, but if that's not satisfactory we can do all contest handling via this feature and just link to the gallery in normal forum threads. Also, we'll have to see if the contest organizer can choose to put voting on hold until entries have been checked, approved and, if need be, edited, then unfreeze.

    How about we have a user set up and I run a nonsense test run with it, deleting the test as soon as we know what we need of how it works? Either that, or the first art contest itself will be the trial, and we adjust for next round if need be. I promise to be careful.
  • Hello, thanks for tagging me here and for the consideration :D

    I'd be very glad indeed to have more material for our own Taphrian creations, but that probably'd be rather selfish.

    For the first such contest, I'm rather more enclined to follow the first theme you suggested – expeditions in foreign lands.

    Taphria can still wait a little more :) I mean, if it works well and we have 8 such contests per year, we can fill in the blanks pretty fast anyway.
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