So, I was musing this topic and in my reading on the forum I came across some information where I read that there was a +300 person tournament happening in Poland (@'Jarek' referred to is as the Poland Team Championship). That blew me away as the largest tournaments in the US run near or about 100 (Buckeye Battles) maybe a little higher. But even in the 8Ed days I think Buckeye was around 150 or so. So this was double the best the US had ever seen. It prompted me to go to the Poland forum and open a topic to ask what were they doing to achieve such success? The feedback was really interesting. Putting aside geography considerations (yeah everything in the US seems far apart, ok, I know you guys in Russia have it even worse) there are initiatives that can be done to grow your local scene. I want to post some of the things that were shared and invite people to post here what initiatives they are implementing to grow their local scene. I hope to keep this thread as an ongoing repository of things for people to refer to so as to give everyone ideas of specific things they can do by reading was has worked for others. Please keep this on a positive note. I'm aware of our challenges in spreading this game, but if we take a proactive approach, we might be able to help grow our own local scene.
So here are some interesting quotes:
So here are some interesting quotes:
I started to organize tournaments in Wrocław - sending info to every contact I had from WFB, they also used their contacts.
This way we had some old good company and some new friends. - Some of them already playing in league.
With some time there was more and more. More frequent changes of rules made some people leave...
Since almost year, two separate groups play two different tournaments separately in Wrocław:
- for casual players in Twierdza Wrocław association (no league)
- for league players in Bolter, organized by JArekk @Jarek
The main challenge is to get totally new players - Since January we have 7 new members (I mean NEW! - They haven't played WFB before) but they get the hobby on their own - no engagement from our side. W/o a local store promoting this hobby it is hard to find totaly fresh players.
The idea of our tournaments is just to have fun - with original and unusual rosters, to give new members a chance to have some fun w/o regular butt kicking, in the very end we have no spitting nails, no unfriendly situations.
In Wrocław we had one huge club (20-25? players through all those years of warhammer ), that was very competitive (few ETC players, good scores on tournaments etc.). They were playing since beginning 7th ed or even before (i got to hobby in middle of 7th so idk for sure). They monopolised the scene in this city and everything about Warhammer was done with/by them. As a club "aimed at success", they discouraged a lot of people to this hobby (mainly more "fun" oriented), and i struggle with it to this day. After AoS release whole club switched to X-wing.
I started organizing T9A tournaments with a second club ("fun" guys*), but after 6-8(?) months i moved tournaments to bigger/better place (a hobby store), and they decided that it will be better to do their own tournaments (lower lever of competitiveness higher of fun). Idk how they are going right now, maybe @blaesus can elaborate (EDIT: he already did ). So for now on I gather only those players that enjoys tournament play, and don't mind getting their ego bitten a bit.
One of our strength is we have a lot of volunteers. A lot of members of our community has a role which fullfill. Sometimes it is just a small things. For example, one time per month or two I organize painting competition for players. You have about a month to paint your miniatures, community is voting and you can win small prize. This encourage people to paint their armies.
Almost every weekend in Poland we have local tournament, sometimes two or three. All this work is done by volunteers.
Some of them you might know from t9a , but there is a lot of guys in Poland who done excellent work.
One of the best example is Katowice. By Last couple month organisation of tournament was very poor. Organizer was not active, he did not send results to league manager, he just start new topic with date on forum and do nothing more. Katowice was one of the strongest community in Poland and they had local tournaments for 6 people. Organizer change last month, he was active, he done everything right. 25 players in June
For most of the WFB and early T9A we organised "Sandpit" tournaments and normal ETC size tournaments.
Sandpits were a very low point tournament aimed for new players and more casual play, and usually only local players attended.
ETC-format tournaments gathered tournament players from nearby (up to 2 hour drive) cities.
In time we had attracted new players, some of them even haven't played WFB before (one of them is @Mamut 2 posts above ) Of these players some remained, some did not. In more recent time we had a few players returned from a X-year break, some from 6th edition, some from 8th.
Of the players that remained active, all of them quickly gathered one or more armies of 4500 size, so for now we organise a 4500pt tournament every month. Attendance varies from 10-24 people.
If a some new people are interested we are just make some introductory games for them.
T9A is by far the most prospering miniature game in our city, for now at least.
It's possible that t9a is the most popular wargaming system in Szczecin atm. I know there are some people playing wh40k, x-wing, Warmachine&Hordes but I doubt they are more numerous than us. However it's just a hunch so don't quote me on that!
I'd say a minature/hobby store or some other public gaming place is the best way to fish for new t9a players. Regularlily playing games or tournaments that are accesible to the public attracts most attention, especially if the players take some time to speak with the audience and explain what's happening on the battlefield. Having good looking armies is also quite important.
All in all (as others have already mentioned) it's all up to local players: they need to make an effort, commit some time and be patient - fresh faces will appear eventually I guess.
I tried to combine in Krakow some tournaments AoS and T9A as I assume that part of people can play both (totally different games). Either quick skirmish either long complex strategic battlefield. ... As AoS is promoted by GW and stores, and sooner or later, it will get much more young players than T9A. While combining, part of these players would play also T9A. So imo this can be the way how to increase the number of players in your local community.