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  • Quote from Folomo: “This is definitely untrue.Having the honour + characters as an entry will only give you more control over the points cost and options. Which will make it easier to balance. The only downside is that it requires some extra initial work. For example right now, a Prince and a commander pay the same amount of points for the High warden Honour. We all know that the price is set for the Prince option, which means the commander option is considerably overpriced. Similarly, the caval…

  • Quote from DanT: “Quote from Aenarion43: “IF you are interested, I made a thread a while ago talking about a vision/opinion for HbE that would lead to significant differentiation from other elves with a functional identity. I can send you the thread, if you like. It seemed to garner support from a decent number of people. Make sure the ACSes know about it and can flag it up to me and others when we get closer to HBE FAB time. That way I will look at it when I will most absorba nd appreciate it. …

  • Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from N3okorrales: “I havent played HE since may(treehugger now...) but everytime i try to do a list and i see the price of ryma knights i instantly close army builder. ” Very often I try to build a roster without them ... and fail every time. ” I put them in mainly because I really like their aesthetic, BUT consider them one of the best units in the book for their price. I prefer to give them the Banner of Speed because A10/M20 is REALLY difficult to play against. Quot…

  • Quote from Blonde Beer: “Did my first real team event with HB. Was fun to take them out for a spin :). I think they were the most onpopulair choice armywise though which is a shame. ” I think a lot of this has to do with how the beta process was handled. Certain steps taken along the way surely had a negative effect on the army's popularity. The army ALSO has a HUGE skill barrier to entry, which is a deterrent to people picking it up *AND* fuels the mistaken perception that it is underpowered. I…

  • An interesting comment on swords from that video: The reason why ancient Greek heroes are noted with spears is because the spear was THE primary weapon of the soldier (phalanx) and probably also THE weapon of the warrior. Swords were seen as secondary weapons (as swords were seen in the Middle Ages also). Modern people see the sword through the lens of romanticism and a sort of revisionist history. While knights typically always carried swords for personal defense, a knight in the Middle Ages pr…

  • PPS. One of the reasons that swords are so developed in myth and fantasy is that in real life they were a status symbol. A good sword was EXPENSIVE, and its wielder was known to be a person of means. Furthermore, you have the fact that carrying a one handed sword was seen as acceptable in most cultures because of its regard as a status symbol. This is why many cultures allowed people to carry short, one handed swords even in areas where we today would consider it uncouth (e.g. at a party or feas…

  • Quote from My_Kin: “even then only as Aenarion using a hunting spear (which seems much more SE really, e.g. Orion, Araloth) and the cover art ” Aenarion THROWS a spear one time at a greater demon and kills it in one shot. No mention of his weapon is used after the fact. However, there IS mention of the fact that Caledor forged a LOT of magical weapons, and Aenarion picked Sunfang as his personal one. As to that cover art, it was the last one, but 6th and 7th edition book showed dudes with swords…

  • Quote from Masamune88: “Quote from Fnarrr: “Quote from AlexCat: “Quote from Fnarrr: “Because swords require a lot training while spears are for everyone ” Where does it come from in fantasy world context? ” roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Weapons#content <- here for example? spear is simple, longswords and greatswords are martial. ” in western fantasy maybe, but take a look outside the borders of the western identity and many a spear wielding legend are available. One that springs to mind is Zhang F…

  • Quote from Cealyne: “@Aenarion43 I don’t have the books with me at the moment so I’ll come back to this. Though I did just finish rereading this maybe a month ago. Malekith s main force was spears and Anlec cav. Hosting some 3000-5000 spears when he first arrived in Ethin Arvan. (Old world ). The 10k Phoenix guard and white lions did play there part but the bulk of Caledors forces comprised of spearmen. Truth be told no elf is a simple grunt like other armies. Even by old fluff they train with s…

  • Quote from Kdownunder: “How is the Nova Flare working out? You always get: Devastating Charge (+1 Att) and Lethal Strike, and become Divine Attacks and Magical Attacks. and one use only: The wielder counts as Charging for the purpose of Devastating Charge. Does this means that when you charge you resolve 5 attacks with S6 and you can activate lance in the opponents turn and do another 5 attacks with S6? ” The effect counts as if you had charged. So yeah. It also triggers any effects from the wie…

  • Quote from Cealyne: “The spear being iconic is rooted everywhere though when it comes to high elves. Lord of the rings: almost every elf in the battle of mount doom in the last alliance. The hobbit: merkwood elves. The noldor... These are just minor examples I feel. The real ones... now just from past imagery that we have. Still accounts for ideas. Warhammer: the cover of our old book. Most images of soldiers in our old book. The sundering series of novels: every armies back bone is spears. EVER…

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Lion Prince could have legs given a decent 2-hander enchantment. There's just a weird disconnect between the Armory (where the HbE weapons are a Spear, a Lance, and a Bow) and the Honours (Where 3 of the combat ones are supposed to be used with 2-hand weapons). Its the book being spread really thin between so many things. Imagine the spear - as the premium on-foot prince equipment - got replaced by a 2-handed weapon enchant. Hell, considering a GW is +2 str and +2 AP while th…

  • ?? In a game where one of the most important things is points efficiency, why do you think? The goal of most people is to squeeze every last drop of value out of each individual point in their list. Are you honestly SURPRISED that someone says “remove Sword Sworn tax if it’s there”?

  • Quote from Vespacian: “@Aenarion43 It actually never came up as a concern in the conversations I saw and the change was unconditional from what I saw. So the short answer is no. ” Huh. Go figure. I think it needs a bit more of a drop, but 15 points is good! Come to think about it, there’s not really much new that opens up with 15 points...... Will go over builds to see if any open up besides Ring/Flare with the drop. However, the increased efficiency is highly desireable. Quote from elendor_f: “…

  • Is that with a “not combinable with ring” caveat or just down to 90 points?

  • Sacrifice A Hecatomb to Zeus. Grab an oar from a boat, then walk inland until you are asked by a stranger why you carry a fan on your back. Then stab the oar's blade into the ground and sacrifice to Poseidon. Pour libations to Athena every night on your way forwards and back. Then, and only then, shall an answer be provided by the gods on the update. For realsies, @Vespacian might know more. However, as far as I've heard it's not COMPLETELY finalized. One final review for a few entries. Not sure…

  • Quote from Giladis: “Quote from Aenarion43: “Cost efficient design is not necessarily GOOD design. ” In an otherwise good post I am left confused by this statement. Can you please elaborate. Because in the context of a game we are building aiming to have something cost inefficient is contrary to the stated goal of trying to balance everything as much as it is humanely possible. ” Quote from WhammeWhamme: “Not Aenarion, but I would assume this is about the gap between "designs you can use to win …

  • Quote from Vespacian: “What I can tell you, bc I actually did the research of reviewing 101 HBE tourney lists from .204 period, is that there are not many entries that are completely unused (even Demons Bane, Ring, saw some use). The entries that saw little use (5% of lists or less as a rule of thumb) were all looked at for price changes. ” The question is, how many of those saw persistent use? How many people used the Ring and/or Daemon's Bane and then picked them up again? Most things *CAN* be…

  • Line Formation does NOT confer Shoot In Extra Rank, therefore they would only fire in 3 ranks (24 shots). Personally I find them to be most useful in 3x10, since you have the highest number of shots.

  • Sword Masters: "His blade was a thing of bright beauty, t'would leave you enamored with bliss. But beware the bewildering terror, brought on by its terrible kiss." Lion Guard: "You will be protected by Strong Caedh Stone and his Bright Lions. Against the beasts and monsters that nest in the wilds, you shall find no better protectors, my Prince." Flame Wardens: "In silent lockstep they marched on their foes, trusting their divine protections to ward off their foes' blades as their halberds shatte…