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  • ETC 2019 UD Lists

    Squirrelloid - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    Quote from Giladis: “Because people who want changes also want balance. ” I guess part of my point is that these two desires are fundamentally incompatible. Forcing change to happen frequently (and make no mistake, annual is very frequent) necessarily means sacrificing balance for the sake of change. If balance was really the goal, point changes should get farther and farther apart, both because the game is closer to balanced, and because it takes longer to collect the necessary data to demonstr…

  • ETC 2019 UD Lists

    Squirrelloid - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    Quote from Palmu: “Indeed, the quest for the ultimate balance would be a pointless quest, allowing change to keep things fresh is where it's at. Change is good, is my opinion on things. ” Well, if that's the goal... -Stop defending it as balance updates -Stop collecting data (it's irrelevant) -Set up a program which takes 10% of prices, tweaks them up or down a bit, and run it annually.

  • ETC 2019 UD Lists

    Squirrelloid - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    Quote from Fnarrr: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “The fact is, the game is externally balanced to a level where army book differences << player skill differences. At which point, there's no need to rejigger points yearly - and it's counterproductive, because more often than not the lax level of statistical significance used to justify changes will turn up false positives way more often than actual balance problems, which means most of the time we'll be making the game less balanced rather than more …

  • ETC 2019 UD Lists

    Squirrelloid - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    @Fnarrr 5 years isn't longer than it will take to do all the FABs. I certainly hope the lifespan of the books is planned for longer than the total development cycle of all books. (I estimate we'll realistically get up to ~2 books a year at maximum output, which means at least 8 years for all books to get FAB treatment). The fact is, the game is externally balanced to a level where army book differences << player skill differences. At which point, there's no need to rejigger points yearly - and i…

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    Squirrelloid - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    Yearly is still too often. xP Five years would be optimal. Two would seem to be the minimal interval. The few people who want constant change could just switch which army they're playing.

  • Still feels too focused on rule/stat specifics, and not enough general play/feel or army thematic material. What does it mean for army development guidelines that DE is primarily a raiding force who attacks from overseas? How does the army function as a matter of military doctrine and logistics? These kinds of things seem far more relevant to hammer out now than fiddly play details. Where's the 'background' for background driven design?

  • Honestly, just give them throwing weapons if they can't have pistols. -You can stash throwing weapons in a belt or sash for easy carrying while being a sailor and doing things like climbing rigging. -Reduces complexity, creating more room for interesting designs elsewhere. -They've had throwing weapons in the past without 'invalidating models', so avoids that concern. -Slightly less range, but can be buffed by +1S spells, and it's probably easier to price.

  • Quote from Darock: “Quote from setrius: “Quote from Giladis: “I would not be so quick to make such statements. For average Joe Legionnaire when they get home from a campaign the most likely activity they will be doing is farming. Then there will artists, poets, carpenters, jewellers etc... I really do not see DE inferior to HE in such matter. ” Power word: Slaves.That is all ” If I remember right... HE have some non-elven Kingdoms which they kind of control. Bit like England controlled India for…

  • Quote from WhammeWhamme: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “Quote from WhammeWhamme: “Elves having meaningful parallels to Haber-Bosch or Borlaug is reasonable. Not necessarily the case, but not something I'd expect the BGT to rule out out of hand, particularly if it fixed a setting hole. ” ...You might want to look up what Haber-Bosch actually entails before so blithely passing it off as something elves could be doing. Pretty sure doing that magically would violate the routine and pervasive use of magi…

  • Quote from WhammeWhamme: “Elves having meaningful parallels to Haber-Bosch or Borlaug is reasonable. Not necessarily the case, but not something I'd expect the BGT to rule out out of hand, particularly if it fixed a setting hole. ” ... You might want to look up what Haber-Bosch actually entails before so blithely passing it off as something elves could be doing. Pretty sure doing that magically would violate the routine and pervasive use of magic. (And do you know how much fertilizer modern farm…

  • Quote from Phaeoron: “I don't, if you were talking to me. I expect HE and DE to be in the same power tier regarding unit prowess, where HE have the advantage in Discipline- and strategy-based approach and DE being more individually skilled in combat. SE could be the most elite spear unit when looking at models without their points costs, since their whole job is guarding the realm and their kin from the dangers of the magical forests they inhabit (and since you can't clear fields in a sentient f…

  • Quote from echoCTRL: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “Quote from echoCTRL: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “Quote from Darock: “Are Legionnaires professional soldiers? I always thought DE are more early Roman Army Style. So before the Marian Reforms. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_reforms That would mean the Legionaries are NOT professional soldiers but some levy troops who have to pay for their own equipment. Or did I messed the background up? ” They go to academy and are professionally trained.At least some…

  • Quote from WhammeWhamme: “Medieval food production was labour intensive. Modern farming is... different. A population that has mastered later era farming techniques has far fewer farmers per capita. 21st century earth is capable of having settlements that feed themselves via dilettante gardeners even without the most industrial aspects being applied. Knowledge is a significant agricultural force multiplier. And dat empire. When you have a highly skilled populace capable of superior crafting capa…

  • Quote from The Changing Constant: “@Squirrelloid, OnG does not have 4+ core infantry. ” Common orcs, HA + xbow, give them shields = 4+ last i checked. (With xbows no less).

  • Quote from echoCTRL: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “Quote from Darock: “Are Legionnaires professional soldiers? I always thought DE are more early Roman Army Style. So before the Marian Reforms. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_reforms That would mean the Legionaries are NOT professional soldiers but some levy troops who have to pay for their own equipment. Or did I messed the background up? ” They go to academy and are professionally trained.At least some of their weapons are provided by the state. The…

  • Quote from Cam: “@Squirrelloid. 4+ in core is dwarf/infernal/saurian territory and just behind Warriors. These are supposed to be some of the strongest armoured armies too. ” It's not just about core. DH has 3+ infantry. ID has 3+ infantry in core. SA has 3+ infantry. Warriors has 3+ infantry in core and 1+ cavalry. Orcs have 4+ core infantry (and as 3+ infantry in special)! HbE has 2+ in core (and 4+ infantry in special), as does KoE. (Cavalry, but it's still core, and they can just not take in…

  • Quote from WhammeWhamme: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “Quote from Giladis: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “saying 'these should be equivalent' ” I am not saying they should be equivalent, there are certainly differences but they are not as stark as "professional soldiers vs peasant conscripts".A HE Citizen is supposed to be a skilled combatant in what they do (do keep in mind what they do will be properly fleshed out in the HE LAB rather than comparing what is in the 2.0 HE SAB), at the same time a DE L…

  • Quote from Darock: “Are Legionnaires professional soldiers? I always thought DE are more early Roman Army Style. So before the Marian Reforms. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_reforms That would mean the Legionaries are NOT professional soldiers but some levy troops who have to pay for their own equipment. Or did I messed the background up? ” They go to academy and are professionally trained. At least some of their weapons are provided by the state. Their armor might be as well, I can't remember. Th…

  • Quote from Giladis: “Quote from Squirrelloid: “saying 'these should be equivalent' ” I am not saying they should be equivalent, there are certainly differences but they are not as stark as "professional soldiers vs peasant conscripts". A HE Citizen is supposed to be a skilled combatant in what they do (do keep in mind what they do will be properly fleshed out in the HE LAB rather than comparing what is in the 2.0 HE SAB), at the same time a DE Legionnaire is supposed to be a skilled combatant in…