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  • @cptcosmic it's called managing expectations, with such wide ranging points changes across all books to happen in the near future, there is going to be changes in our book to the top performers to ensure that all events out, not just boosts us to the top. Collective thinking, not singular thinking will be applied (and rightly so). The project has been accused of being opaque in the past, I'm mitigating this by being transparent, but that doesn't mean that I'm only going to be transparent about t…

  • Aka, be ready to receive a points increase on MoCT along with the buffs on our other entries, its probably the best performance peice we have atm Once we have more info we will share it though, rest assured

  • @DanT I've been tossing up taking the below to the largest tourney in NZ this month but am having a difficult time justifying close to 1200 points on a single model. Think its feasible? Quote from Masamune88: “ ++ Highborn Elves (Highborn Elves 2.0) [4,499pts] ++ + Characters + Commander [340pts]: Heavy Armour, Master of Canreig Tower, Shield . Special Equipment: Lucky Charm . . Alchemist's Alloy . . Willow's Ward - Models on Foot only Commander [320pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Light Armour, Lo…

  • @DanT yes, it is part of the ACS remit to translate the ideas to the community, however if the ACS has to dig through layers of bureaucracy to find a person willing to define the situation succinctly then we have a problem. Unless the ACS has the tools and information to hand to answer the clarifications though, we will end up with the confusion that has been going around. From my exp of the design process, it is incredibly hard to pin down an answer from aspects of the project mainly due to wor…

  • @Giladis the tag was to move the comms higher up the chain yes, but also in your comments directly post your reply you basically point out my point, "You misunderstand..." And then a lengthy explanation for something that should be outlined. Basically you are needing to translate the guidelines meaning for community members to understand. That in essence is an issue which can seriously drain the project of resources due to explanation burnout

  • @Giladis this discussion seems to be revolving around interpretation and knowledge. I can see the frustration of both sides, but the crux of it seems to be that the designers and higher ups understand what they mean inherently with their guidelines as they have defined what the terms actually mean and have context for internal comparison, the community doesn't have the advantage of this knowledge. Because of this, they are left to try and tease out meaning by asking questions over and over witho…

  • Quote from Giladis: “@Masamune88 you also forgot Shamanism being eastern and Alchemy being western influence. ” true, did slip the mind, hard to keep track since it's been a while since we had the discussion. All in all it's the great unifier, all the aspects of elven kind in one complete package. Which works fantastically well thematically and mechanically tbh

  • @Giladis ninja'd me, that's the article that describes the divide between MoCT and Asfada, not as succinctly as one might hope, but we have an unreliable human narrator so, needs must. MoCT is a unifying entry, ment to thematically link all 3 races of elves through a puritan ideology, hence access to druidism (SE, for the wilder cousins) and witchcraft (DE, for the trickier cousins). It's a divide for the soul of the pearl throne and its empire, Asfada believe all elves need to be civilised and …

  • I'll have a hunt around for it

  • Quote from N3okorrales: “its only 695 points!! what a bargain! now compare it to a KoE duke and cry in a corner. ” comparing it to the might Duke is a bit disingenuous, that thing is going to take a massive hit this update if what I'm hearing is correct. And I said that this build was overpriced. Not doubting that in the slightest. Also, again, tone down the response.

  • keep it civil gents, I'd rather not have to ask the mods to intervene. Personal attacks or insinuations are not something that we as a forum should have to tolerate. On a side note, I've found that a griff prince with diadem, nova and daemons helmet works well and is competitive, probably not at super high levels but I've had him take out at least his own level of points if not double the amount. 4+/4++ (2++ against flaming) with conditional 2+/4++ on magical attacks with 10 S6 attacks on the ch…

  • Nothing has been confirmed as yet for the roll out for the points changes. As soon as we get the green light ( an learn of it) though, we will let you know. Otherwise, do we have any data minds in the throne room? We need a couple of people to assist with the finalisation of the tournament data points that will inform the statistical analysis for the points update and any help would be much appreciated. Link below for details the-ninth-age.com/community/in…ostID=1258731#post1258731

  • issue with the survey as you can submit multiple times with the same account/IP address. This may lead to skewed data if people abuse it.

  • @matrim agreed, the survey is not brilliant or in depth enough by itself to notify with any accuracy exactly what needs to happen and I would advocate for space to place feelings in there to inform but the tools presented are such that they minimize the data collection effort to inform as a series of data points. Combining with feedback threads and EE feedback as separate data points should allow the teams to make much more informed decisions around price. Will also bring up internally the abili…

  • @all Please submit your responses to the HBE survey as well as any discussions re the survey/balance of the army in the following thread so that we can collate and collect it asap! the-ninth-age.com/community/in…19-balance-update-survey/

  • Princes and Admirals, Its that time of the year when the gods of balance look to the masses to see if they need to realign their thoughts to better serve their people. As such, please ensure to submit your views on the forces of the pearl throne as soon as you are able. the-ninth-age.com/community/ne…-internal-balance-survey/ This thread will also be used for discussion around points and prospects for the new update so put your thoughts on paper and make them count! Cheers HBE ACS team

  • @jimbo81 this is just coming across as a total whine fest now. You need one thing, Perspective. Play another army for a bit, you'll start realising just how good warriors are and just how useful they can be. "all other core can beat us"? really? that's hyperbolic BS and you know it. try being that price without any of the protection (aka playing elves) and see how it feels.

  • Quote from Fnarrr: “Now that I'm tied for 2nd best HbE at ETC, and at an average positive score (albeit a modest 11), does my opinion that elves are generally fine start to count for something or...? Side info, i got 49 pts in 4 games I actually played (12 avg), and 17 across two games with agreed results. ” ex dwarf player opinions count for nothing! on a more serious note, well done! and also your opinions always carried weight, but opinions have a hard time fighting perceptions and there was …

  • it is a pricing grievance, but we are all pretty well aware that there wont be a lot of change on that. The mounts section is too crowded for us which gives less space for differentiation. We have 6 flying mounts for gods sake, they will step on each others toes until that is sorted

  • Quote from Grouchy Badger: “No. ” very productive answer, care to elaborate so we can understand?