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  • Quote from Herminard: “What is your experience in this regard? ” Minimum blocks of 20~25. Yes they will usually die, or be weakened enough after a combat to be only really be used as scoring or chaff, but I find they usually do more than I expected on that single combat and it can be key to disrupt the enemies plan. I do play with quite a bit of support magic though.

  • Quote from Traumdieb: “What will you change in your list? ” Proparly just really finish my non shooty agressive seeker army. Most of the things I was toying with got cheaper, only need to rebuild the characters.

  • Quote from Herminard: “This is.. not at all what I ask. ” What I meant was having them do more than just fill in a questionaire but give their own written feedback about stuff. Like the example Furion linked.

  • Quote from Herminard: “@Blonde Beer - EE should probably be something more than just a questionnaire indeed ” I know, but Im streched quite thin at the moment. Its something that is on my mind though, but getting community feedback handled officially and related subjects for it was higher on my to do list. During the beta fase Ill see if I can add more to the EE work load.

  • Quote from Furion: “But - correct me if I'm wrong - the balancing issue is closed now and the meetings are over, so itwill be the usual "maybe next time" right ” Actually I was planning to go read the written version this afternoon before the meeting. Might be nice to have gotten it earlier though.

  • I don't handle EE Furion. Afaik its still being set up and the numbers need to go up to make it more usefull. In my eyes it should be more than just a questionaire though. But did you actually talk to HR if you want to help? Besides that I havent seen any information you might have send on come in via HB ACS. So I guess there is a break in the line somewhere.

  • As far as I am aware you have been requested to join the EE to give feedback. For everything else helpwise, pm HR. Or send a pm with suggestions to HB ACS or an RT member.

  • Ahh. Well in that case talking about average "top" lists expectarions Ill assume most will have a points drop. But like I said before the lists I checked with the "final" points like DH had swings between -20 to +80. Its too specificly tailored to the lists thats it tricky to give a more specific answer. Especially people that play odd ball lists vs meta lists... (and with the change in meta in the near future those might trade places)

  • Im not quite certain what you are asking? I dont have the finalized HB points yet, so how can I calculate the exact point drop in any specific list?

  • I personally don't think a 50 point decrease on HB will be enough. For the rest it will depend on the lists in specific. Ive calculated a few HB lists with what I am guessing the new points will be. Those went all down points wise.

  • There Is a human check yeah. Not just by RT but with this beta step as well. We assigned the book as the lowest tier, to be honest I dont really see how to make it more clear that we see "that the book really needs help". I cant come in here with a blank statement like, we are reducing every unit with 10% dont worry because a)we have 1 meeting to go, and b) Im pretty certain people will go, no bro, 450 points extra is still not enough, I need some spinners on my Chariots to really pimp the list.…

  • Haha actually Im not in EXB and to be honest Im checking community responses post beta update to start analyzing. I was just really suprised with the current topic :). Most forums were still very deep in some heated discussions.

  • Yeah I know, I took notes from the earlier pages ;).

  • Quote from Zyonn: “@Blonde Beer I really can understand your frustration. It must be hard to be confronted that much with the negativity of an entire forum. And I mean what I say, no jokes or sarcasm included. But maybe you can try to switch positions and have a view at the entire problem from the perspective of HBE players. I think it is understandable that players lost faith in the results of fixes because the last updates had really dramatic impacts on HBE. Making the army come all the way do…

  • Quote from greentide: “Can we have an official HB book for 2.1 where most of the stuff gets cheaper as expected and one specifically for cptcosmic where all his nightmares finally come true? So everybody gets what he wants ” @cptcosmic was man enough to send a pm to talk and apologise, so we talked it out and its all cool now.

  • So instead of having a serieus discussion, we just go back to this. More negativity. Fine Im off.

  • Then you tell me @cptcosmic where a staff member told you that the prices of HB are going up, while SE is getting buffed? You mentioned it, so go ahead show me. This is exactly the kind of stuff why you see staff members spend less and less time on the open forums. Ive been trying to be supportive of you guys and help ACS with info, but man, I do feel like I am waisting my time here.

  • Im happy when doing my rounds how people received the updates to find you are all discussing about the genders of your toys. Carry on, I need to go check the HB discussions who are discussing point changes and their passion for an update that isn't even released for them yet.

  • Quote from Grand frere: “This is what we can conclude from the process of internal balance of the book that has been explained to us and when we see the update of our ES cousins. ” So nobody did, but it is just easier to say so, because it fits the retoric? Im certain somethings in the book will go up, but this doommongering that the HB book is getting nerfed is just getting silly.

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “there is a history behind the HBE players attitude... and now HBE players are told to get ready for price increases when SE, a whole tier above HBE, hardly received any nerfs. ” Do me a favor and please point at the staff member who told you that HB is going up price wise? Especially since the final meeting for HB update hasnt even take place yet.