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  • Quote from X-C-Y: “This list has increased 230pts, I wonder what the highest effective list for UD is??? ” Highest UD ETC list is a bit more than 300p more expensive. That is in addition to the Hereditary nerf. Quote from JimMorr: “I expected to see stubborn on pendulum gone. Would change our army in more ways than point nerfs. Maybe it would be a bridge too far... ” Yeah, rule changes were kept to a minimum so only done in the 2 instances (UD H-spell & might-duke). Perhaps it was considered but…

  • Quote from Fleshbeast: “Yep, if you play the net list then you are now at least 5% less efficient than any list except UD. Against SE / HBE you are 10% worse off. Note: this is really rough based on net list getting ~200pts more expensive and your average SE/HBE list getting 200+pts cheaper. 400pt swing is up to 10% impact. ” Not saying there wasn't a shift in external balance (after all, it is one of the goals of this update), but just pointing out your numbers are somewhat off. The average (ET…

  • Quote from Thebloodyharpy: “Hi All, if a catapult has a range of 12 to 48 inches, is half range 30 or 24 inches ? Thanx ” 24. Quote from Thebloodyharpy: “Oh and does flaming swords also affect catapults ? ” Yes.

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Shako - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Bit off-topic as we passed the lightning discussion but.. maybe for lightning attacks just an easy to play +1 to hit if the target as armour 3 or better?

  • Infernal Dwarf Book Snippet

    Shako - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Quote from Traumdieb: “seriously they get no bows anymore? ” When did slaves had bows? In my slim book they don't at least ! Vassals are a complete other discussion Quote from Traumdieb: “About the kind of slaves. I would like to see two options. V1 like human vassals / hobgoblins on 20x20 and V2 Resilience 4, Agi 2, LD5 on 25x25 ” If you have already vassals with human/hobgoblin stats on 20x20 base. Why would you need slaves with human/hobgoblin stats on a 20x20 base aswell? You seem to be mixi…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Shako - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Well written @Arthur. I do agree that this does have the potential to be troublesome. Whether it's dominating or not is secondary. If the list isn't fun to play against in 80% of the matchups (either because you easy win or easy lose), I personally don't think it's fit to be in the game. Is that the case? Some more experience will be needed to judge that. Hence, thank you for your feedback and I urge others to provide the same, in both directions. Whether you played (against) it and found it fun…

  • Quote from cptcosmic: “Quote from Kapten Kluns: “depends on the overall treatment of the army id say and what treatments individual picks got.Theoretically speaking. If VS worst list are as weak as HbEs worst list and they got the same treatment then thats good. As long as VS strongest list would be nerfed down to be as strong as HbEs strongest list. So its not the individual changes that matters but the overall effect that the changes has on balance. ” you very well described the issue =D the o…

  • ID suggestions

    Shako - - General Discussion

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    Hey there, 1) no rule changes to locked books, which all the slim books are. (Negative rule changes can happen if points changes are deemed not enough to restore balance, see the changes to the UD hereditary spell or Valour of Might for KoE). 2) At the moment ID is it's process to receive it's LAB. Meaning in a couple of months any change would be mood anyway :). 'See here: the-ninth-age.com/community/in…d/43-infernal-dwarves-id/ for the design guidelines and some spoilers. In regards to Taurukh…

  • Quote from jaith1: “Furion first post since update states he got a 50 point discount and +2 cast to unerring Strike. So overall his list got weaker imo. +2 cast to unerring strike is a nerf to us, as it was one of the few anti-monster tools we had, and certainly cannot be offset by something like void talisman. ” It's funny how everybody (not literally) playing Dragons, Hydren etc. was shouting "Diviniation is too good! I can't play my monsters!" Now it's been nerved and some of the same people …

  • Quote from Nasion "Demon": “Lightning Rod (110 pts) - Battle Standard Bearer andVermin Guard only. But only BSB from VS has limit 100pts so now only Vermin guard can carry it right? ” At the moment correct, but: Quote from Blonde Beer: “Im looking in to the Banner on BSB thing btw before Valorunbound gets delved under with questions;). ”

  • Quote from Kapten Kluns: “How much do pleople think that the externally strong armies have been taken down? Thats also something that will affect the overall performance of 4500pts vs 4500pts on the table. With an increase in VS and UD lists of something like 200-300 points the decreases of 50-150 points to HBE lists might amount up? And if the internal balance is better then great ” The ETC lists for VS increased by an average of 162. UD I can't remember from top of my head, if I remember corre…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Shako - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from ValourUnbound: “Quote from Shako: “I would've put VH at 4 or 6.Dreadmills as a unit is interesting though. But not everything needs to have an increased min size.. was more for the R&F. ” I was just taking it to it's logical conclusion (units of characters??). It would certainly be an interesting gimmick. VS could be the army that units all the things. Anyone remember units of Weapons Teams in 0.7? They even had scout to represent a certain tunneling object, @Eldan. ” That would c…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Shako - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from ValourUnbound: “VH start at 8? Dreadmills/Catapults start at 2? ” I would've put VH at 4 or 6. Dreadmills as a unit is interesting though. But not everything needs to have an increased min size.. was more for the R&F. Quote from JimMorr: “Lower Ld on Otherworldly gigantic model will be a problem during Break Tests. It could be compensated by stubborn. But maybe we should ask a question what is the intended playstyle for rats. No access to Ld 9 bubble, low unit Ld and all damage de…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Shako - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Or reduce his leadership, to the level of tyrant. He'd still be a better leader by having 18" IP (other changes would be necessary of course). Just had a random idea: Why not kill the tradition of +1 LD per full rank? Instead make it +1LD for every other unit in x" ? Pro: Would help out those with low number of ranks as Vermin Hulks or Bombardiers not to run away after a scratch. Pro: Would promote bubble play Pro: Allows counterplay by the opponent by targeting the weak flanks first Con: Would …

  • Quote from Koller: “Quote from ValourUnbound: “Looks like we have the only banner that costs over 100 points, so this might have been an oversight. I've let the team know. Anything else like that? These are the things that we need to find while it's still in beta. ” You are not, ID have Icon of the Inferno (115 pts) its a banner ” Yeah, but a Vizier can have up to 150p in magic allowance so.. VS are at the moment the only army where the BSB can't take a certain magic banner.

  • Quote from IntrigueAtCourt: “Am I the only one slightly disappointed? I don't see how 3 more LG or 1 more ryma is going to propel the roster from tier 5 to 3? ” Well you could also try to maximize your "profit" by building an armylist containing a lot of the reduced stuff. Maybe you end up with a list worth 120 more points with the old costs (which at least is what happened to a couple of new lists I wrote for ID). Together with the nerfs on the top tier armies..

  • Quote from Shane: “It’s interesting that of the first 4 armies being re-created, none are supposed to have cheap chaff. Any idea if that’s an overall project goal, or just an accumulation of coincidence? The Coincidence seems unlikely unless we factor in AS&W impact of single Concept driven design (ie, all of those armies are “Elite” in their core identity, and thus must be moved away from their multiple faction identities because reasons), but if that was then or is now a project goal it would …

  • Quote from Shane: “As i’m Thinking about that, If the Hob’s become race-neutral “Vassals”, what happens to the wolves? Is the better plan to make them “Vassal mounts” and give them stats on line with horses, or keep them with the current stats and give them a generic name? I’d think the best plan would be a name change and no stat adjustment, because changing rules/stats means starting over and losing the months (years?) of balance work that has been done to current iteration, but I actually don…

  • Quote from Exalted Champion: “Arcane compendium is updated. But where is the promised change to unnerring strike? @Krokz ” In the casting value. +2 to cast for both versions.

  • Quote from da_griech: “Doomwheel now only hits on 4+ in combat if I understand it right? ” What makes you think so? It's still "hitting" on 3+ in melee.