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The latest issue of the 9th Scroll is here! You can read all about it in the news.

  • Quote from Palmu: “Yes - That thing doesn't do anything right, and is likely THE worst monster in the game. ” Nobody listens to me when I say this... I haven't used my abom in years

  • Most things can be tweaked with pricing. Some can't. The project has chosen to only tweak rules of broken combos or meta shifting builds and left others for LAB time to keep the project moving forward. You don't have to like this, but it's what the volunteers that work in T9A have chosen to do. Let's focus on what changed instead of complaining about how things were or were not changed.

  • Quote from Phosphorus: “Well, that is not specific about VS , but concerning the internal (and of cause to a degree external) balance amy wide. It is irritating to me , the project started in 2015 and now "just" as a stable (more or less?) basic rule set while the problems with the army lists due to legacy are more or less still here . I am well aware that some issues need their time, but some (the bigger) problems are (were) obvious right fromt the start and even after the first changes remaine…

  • Quote from jirga: “Book is locked, not gonna happen. And some like their barbarians even though forum hivemind seems to hate them. ” I like my brick of 30 with shields for under 300 points. They don't have to kill anything, they just go take an objective or fight chaff. Although I keep looking at 36 with GW for 450.......

  • Quote from Skarab86: “This changes are a joke, and changing points is worthless. I prefered that the people who work here started with a real work and gived up with stupid things like this balance of points. Who is going to change pendulum? It need a lot of resources from the enemy to be killed. Who is going to change demon? Divination, 3 dices on leadership, L9 on 18', good fighter... Our problem is that we have the worst internal balance of the game by far. ” They know this. But that level of …

  • Armybuilder 3.x Dataset

    SkavenInAZ - - Supporters Corner


    Looks like WDG Warriors are slightly off.. here's what I was using: Latest 2.48 file: 16 Warriors = 359 Wrath = 128 GW = 80 FC = 70 Total comes to 637, AB comes to 633.

  • Quote from Eldan: “I'll say it again: we should not be a character-focused army. ” We are already a character focused army in the fact that we depend on them for leadership. I'm not suggesting that we make them Chosen Lord's - just that they unlock potential in units to make them better.

  • Quote from Shako: “That would certainly be something different. Though I'm not sure whether a unit of warmachines would actually work ruleswise?Anyhow: Are VS players set on receiving LD from full ranks or are other ways a possibilty to think about? Any flaws with my idea above? (Not saying it's the be all end all, there are probably quite some other possible solutions) ” Conversations I've had with RT members have indicated that they believe the LD problem is the main problem within the book as…

  • This was something that was suggested in the 2.0 conversion, but was ultimately discarded for the current solution. The Bell has seen a resurgence as of late. Several two towers lists have done well in the US and elsewhere. That being said, I'm sure that at LAB time (whenever that is), that the Bell will get a full rework, as will almost everything else. I'm not happy with it personally, as I feel it's a band aid patch to some of our issues - but doesn't mesh well with the book's strengths.

  • Definitely a good catch. Let's keep looking and see if we find anything else out, so we can bring it to the appropriate people to fix. We ACS have an internal forum that has RT visibility, so they'll take what we post there and work it out.

  • Quote from da_griech: “Wondering whether Disciples get nerfed (again). ” Nerfed in rules? Doubtful, VS has more pressing issues that, even then, don't seem to fit the guidance that RT gives. Nerfed in points? We were seeing people take 40+ in games.. I think it's a possibility.

  • Hoping to see some improvements to our core selections. We know certain choices are going to get hit, let's see how badly and what we can do around that.

  • That just gets into Inception levels though... I as Sr. ACS ordered my boss, Head of ACS to do what he has previously ordered me to do..

  • Ninjad by both Flo and Arwaker.. who needs ACS?

  • Noticed an incongruity in the new beta book: Sorceror Mount Battleshring has rule Beacon of the Dark Gods under Global, but Keeper of the Beacon under Model Rules. I believe the Model Rules part should change to say Keeper of the Beacon, since the Battleshrine Global Rules doesn't have Keeper of the Beacon as a rule.

  • Quote from Krokz: “Do you need me to confirm a nerf to VS too? ” Don't do it @Krokz!

  • Quote from jimbo81: “Our best character (Envy war dias chosen lord with burning portent) can't go toe to toe with a thirster and is outclassed by cheaper characters (iron orc warlord with omen of the aporcalypse, willows ward, potion of swiftness and talisman shielding) with access to shooting and greater synergies. I don't seem to be able to replicate the experience of the ideal match up by a masters level player where everything falls in to place. ” You're complaining a model can't go toe to t…

  • Quote from jimbo81: “ My first reaction is disappointment. It's the exact same book. I've been waiting for points relief for a LONG time and this update has not delivered. ” I think your desires are misplaced. You have a book performing at a top level, and you continually want points adjustments on things that are regularly taken and used with great effectiveness. You can't continue to complain about the fact that you don't find the points satisfactory without frustrating the forum and players a…


  • Tides of War GT

    SkavenInAZ - - North American Events


    Round 1 should start at 10:30 on Saturday Probably finish by 5:30 PM on Sunday I'll get the official rules pack finished up this week and posted/emailed. This is the 2018 thread though, FYI.