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  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from Mirdhynn: “@Kolata @Ironrock You say that the list have to be built around cyclops to be effective. Can you tell us more ? What is the general concept to make them work fine ? ” My list with 3 cyclops included also many mongrel raiders, centaur with hawthorne curse and 2 adepts with magic missles (druidism+shamanism). In addition 2 blocks of minotaurs and minotaur BSB for head to head combat and 2x ambushing wildhorns with PW+TW for scoring. So it was sh!tload of mobile shots but also…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from Idum: “About dark seed: soft cover, dangerous terrain for cav/construct, disrupting for ranked units, stubborn for gargs & raiders, magic boost, tree pickup zone for giant... Where you want it! Not imba but great potential with BH ” Flying skirmishers don't get stubborn in forest.

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Cyclops are really good for their points. They only suck in combat vs enemy heroes, monsters and unstompable things. But they threaten them (heroes and monsters) on range. Also, they can easily hold enemy hero or flying monster for 1 turn for countercharge thanks to monstrous rank. At the same time they are much more resilient than all other monsters we have. Versatility for good price is the key. If you have 3, some matchups turn from horrible to good. The biggest problem I found is that it's h…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    For last 1,5 year I've been playing triple cyclops with quite good results. Finally I took double Gortach for a big tournament in Poland last weekend. They got shot down in 4 out of 5 battles doing almost nothing (even though I had 2 Binding Scrolls and Druidism master). I played 2x ID, 2x VS, 1x DH. They go on shelf for another 1,5 years Do you have the same experience?

  • Some quick ideas: Basalt Infusion, Willow Ward, Talisman of Shielding, HA, BA, Shield (2+ 5++ 3++fire) Ghostly Guard, Willow Ward, Talisman of Shielding, HA, BA, Shield (1+ vs non magical, 5++) Bluffers Hide, Obscuring Fog, Dragonbane Gem, HA, BA, Shield Wildform, Obscuring Fog, Dragonbane Gem, Obsidian Rock, HA, BA, Shield

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from sixfthoneybadger: “Quote from Kolata: “6 minimum, 7 optimum, 8 luxury ” Is that with or without Minotaur character. I like taking a minotaur warlord? So still same numbers? ” The same for me. Quote from Exalted Champion: “Quote from Kolata: “6 minimum, 7 optimum, 8 luxury ” Considering 7+character or 8 minos: formation = 4x2? Or better 3x3x2? ” Depends on matchup. For example vs KoE you go always 3x3x2. But if you need a screen, play vs many penetrating hits or simply calculate that t…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    6 minimum, 7 optimum, 8 luxury

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from clorens: “with navigator banner we impact 5+ ” Not all WL have this banner. And even if they have, minotaurs still hit MUCH better on 5+ re-rollable with battle focus than WL on 4+ (Minotaurs with parry). Also minotaurs have autohitting impact hits and stomps. All you need is 1 spell to win this combat easily.

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    The best against white lions are charging minotaurs with shields. You get 1 good spell off (Black Wing totem or Stone Skin) and they completely destroy WL.

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from SmithF: “Quote from Kolata: “I agree with you on some points, but what do you mean by 'Beastlord does the killing'? What is the build for beastlord on foot that makes him work for you? ” Beastlord, GW, LA, Destiny's Call, Blessed Inscriptions, Dragonfire Gem, Crown of Horns. It might be only 4 attacks, but rerolling everything means that you often get 3-4 kills even against tough foes. So the Wildhorns only need to tank a bit and you're winning the fight (and the grind, in the long ru…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    @SmithF I agree with you on some points, but what do you mean by 'Beastlord does the killing'? What is the build for beastlord on foot that makes him work for you?

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from Shako: “Quote from Mirdhynn: “Do you have some numbers about the standard deviation for all armies ? This to put in perspective the "it passes or it breaks" aspect of the armies. I calculate 34 pts of standard deviation for the BH army. ” I have not (yet). At the moment a couple of armies are still missing their ETC calculations, which I'm going to do today/tomorrow. If I have the spare time I'll do a post in the general forum covering all 16 armies and their values. ” Please inform w…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    @Mirdhynn I'm sorry, but this is just your opinion that BH suck on single events. Data from tournaments show something else, right @Just_Flo ? As to mentioned 3 units: Cyclops - they are very good for this price in my opinion Jabber - 320 looks interesting, worth testing Longhorns - big units have 3 problems: 1. Most of all are horribly overpriced!!! (at least 2ppm for extra models) 2. Our heroes on foot are mediocre at best. 3. In this section Minotaurs are way better.

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    @Hruggek We are talking about THIS patch. Main assumption of this patch its that we do only price changes for better overall balance (with exception of UD Hereditary and Duke Nukem - I don't think there were any other design changes, right?).

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Guys, please be realistic. Before you write anything you must consider facts: 1. BH are competitive army, for sure not below average. 2. There will be no design changes. So all ridiculous wishlists make no sense. I bet most users don't event read these lists, especially if they are RT members who see them in all 16 army forums. In addition, this way, if you have 1 good idea which is hidden among 15 unrealistic requests and wall of complaints, there is a big chance it will be lost. For example - …

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    So we have an update. My quick thoughts: CV of our hereditary Boosted Version should drop by 1 (to 8). 9 is very high and spell is very rarely taken. Balance changes Special Items: • Twin Hungers 40 ↘ 35 OK • Seed of the Dark Forest 60 ↗ 65 OK • Eye of Dominance 30 ↗ 50 - too big of a price increase, will not be used • Banner of the Wild Herd 50 ↗ 60 - unnecessary, but comes from core so doesn't matter much I'd like to see -5 pts on Inscribing Burin and -10 pts on Pillager Icon, because we don't…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    IMO putting BH in 2nd tier is correct judgement. I just hope that the incoming nerfs will not be like blanket bombing of whole book, but clinical strikes (spears on Mongrels should cost something, shields on minotaurs are ridiculously cheap - should be expensive, not sure what else). Also some costs, like extra models of wildhorns (or maybe PW on wildhorns?) and longhorns should go down in price.

  • Quote from saint_barbara: “Quote from Archeron: “Quote from Frederick: “It’s a Hotel! Sure it is possible Hanging out at the pool I guess? ” Hmm a game in the Pool that could be funny but i would not try cause of i´m frigthend my modells will not survive fully ” the-ninth-age.com/community/in…309aa6b376dff09b55dc7f723 ” We did it at 2:00 at night. That was a bootcamp to remember! #ETC2014 Can't wait for WTC 2020!

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Kolata - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    For me Wildhorns extra models should be much cheaper, while spears on mongrels and shields on minotaurs should be more expensive. Minotaur warlord is definitely too expensive as well. And extra models of longhorns. Other than that it's rather ok, -5/-10pts for some unused items like pillager icon, dark rain or inscribing burin would be nice.

  • I can't believe what you say regarding external power level DL is for sure above average. I would be surprised if any country planning to win ETC wouldn't take DL.