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  • Quote from Perch: “Kinky cuatl lord build is not possible anymore (ancient knowledge + breaker of spells + symbiosis), but it is nothing to cry about. ” Try this: Cuatl, Breaker of Spells, Symbiosis, Trained from Birth, Magical Heirloom It is nearly the same thing. Still a fair and powerful build i would say. I stil have doubts personally if bows should even exist in the SA book. The wildfire burst bow is quite oke but even if bows would be free, exchanging shields wouldn't be a real option for …

  • Here an overview of all changes from 2.0 to 2.2, filtered out some of the reverted changes and some got for example twice a point drop between 2.0 and 2.2. Hopefully this puts the balance patch in a bit more perspective. Wildfire Burst 75 -> 70 (-5) Serrate Scales 65 -> 60 (-5) Sphere of Shielding 80 -> 75 (-5) Ancient Plaque 80 -> 75 (-5) Starfall Shard 75 -> 60 (-15) Obsidian Tesseract 35 -> 25 (-10) Caiman Ancient_base cost 210 -> 195 (-15) Cuatl Lord_base costs 470 -> 445 (-25) Cuatl Lord_Ma…

  • Quote from Aeon: “Is it plan to remove alpha from the list one day ? I mean there is no point anymore and i personnaly feel that this is the way it goes. As long as we can get a carno for veteran or lord it's fine for me because i use to play without for decades. It is a serious question here. ” Elaborate on, "there is no point". Why do we have to remove an entry because of your personal opinion that a normal Carnosaur is good enough for you? The Alpha Carno entry is used in 50% of the lists alm…

  • Poisoned javelins went from 2.0 -> 2.2 down from 4ppm to 2ppm!!! (Hidden Content) We questioned how the SA core was balanced internally as there were only 2 choices and you have no material to compare it with compared to armies with more core entries. Result was a point drop from 21p per extra model to 19p per extra model which i am super excited about 2.0 -> 525 - Cuatl, Essence 2.2 -> 525 - Cuatl, Essence, Sun Tablet It is just one extra artefact slot, which sounds like a big deal, but we are …

  • New 2.2.5 December

    marcema - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Quote from Cuendae: “Quote from marcema: “It'll be worth the wait! :) ” I've heard same words before last patch and it was not worth :d (at least for me) ” Well, don't know who did, but i can't recall it coming from me

  • New 2.2.5 December

    marcema - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    I hope they will be up soon as well, but have no concrete info. Anyone who has gotten info up to now has gotten it through the wrong channels, is not supposed to know and has info that might not even be final. Therefore I'd recommend you to take everything with a grain of salt It'll be worth the wait!

  • Quote from Traumdieb: “I agree Skink Priest with Shamanism and Tablet plus Mage with Evocation is awesome. ” Other great thing that can happen with this combo, rhamphadons on a marked unit with +1S and reroll to wound. One of the two is already great though and you almost have the guarantee that one of the two gets through. Assume them fighting marked chaos warriors with a 4+ AS (halberds) with either. 3 rhamphadons have on average 12 attacks, 12 hits (4+ to hit, BF, rerolls), 8 wounds in both c…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    marcema - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from Hruggek: “Things like Varkolaks absolutely wreck this kinds of lists. Our shooting is a joke, we don't have magic missiles. The one that is available to Druidism is also a joke for dealing against those units. Kill plenty and give nothing in return for the Varkolaks. ” Shamanism with Swarm of Insects? Evocation has 2 snipes which can deal damage to varkolaks. Not that it changes a lot, but there's more than just druidism.

  • I can see where you see value in these units. In some situations they definitely have. However they are opponent dependent where blowpipes have a better allround output. In a tram tournament I can therefore see javelinskinks as a valuable unit, but else blowpipes seem supreme.

  • Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “Interesting lists, even if they're more or less copy of each other. If I recall correctly, Spain's meta revolves more or less around big units. Evocation is an interesting pick too. ” I think evocation is a very good pick together with some shamanism support. Played it myself (in a complete different list) as well with a great result. It works really well for SA because of our low OS. It solves the TGs AP issue with Awaken the Beast and Spectral Blades and reroll to hit…

  • Quote from Pellegrim: “As an OG player I was mighty impressed by the SA Cavalry. They pack the best of both worlds (Common and Feral Mounted Eadbashers), with a whopping 4 attacks per model, and a 2+ armour save. ” They do have a lot of attacks, their M7 is an issue however. 2+ is fine you'd say, but my struggle with cavalry is that you can get unlucky too easy. You lose 1-2 models before they charge and they suddenly aren't that impressive. Quote from Soldaan: “The problem with them is their ag…

  • Quote from Shako: “https://drive.google.com/open?id=10FVP1HDtZ6HH-yiVZNh_Ihf1c34ip1DW :) ” Quote from Crazydwarf: “Enjoy! (English is not my primary language, so excuse the wording) (Jingle bell tune) Marching through the land, Slaves have naught to say With my Whip in hand, I'm laughing all the way Screaming out their lungs, ohh what jolly fun The joy cutting off their tungs I sing this little song ohhhh... Infidels, how they smell The giant have not been fed Cracked the whip, broke a hip The s…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    marcema - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from clorens: “the last tournament in spain mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&…ttid=16e862be14c4c1164b91 ” Do you have either a link to the document or a google drive file? Google mail is not accessible

  • @Darken how big sre your javelin hunter units? For me it rarely happens dat 5 res2 wounds survive combat so feels like you need at least a larger unit.

  • Quote from alehl: “Would it be possible to add a rule to make sense to play mounted shaman with engine? ” Why wouldn't it make sense? You mean how scarification affects the model casting and not the mount?

  • Quote from Palomita15: “That is problem and a pity for SA feedback, now people don't play SA in tournaments, so we can not be sure how new updates work. However, if no-one plays in competitive tournaments SA is the best feedback ” Question is if it is due to the performance or lack of variety. I am leaning towards the variety side, but that's just a feeling

  • Quote from strauss: “Hey guys, Here is the updated version of the list repository : ALL THE LISTS HERE @Just_Flo - it's the biggest belgian event (70 players, 14 teams of 5), dunno if it can be interesting for all your analysis ” Are the lists pre or post list corrections?

  • Quote from Palomita15: “drive.google.com/file/d/1Li3Il…4-mravJF0O211alrYksh0mJcw A big tournament this weekend 28 teams I guess, 4 guys per team = 112 players, just 3 SA players.. 2,67% out of total. SA isn't an option in a tournament. Please, fix that ” Belgian Mercenaries Team Tournament 14 teams, 70 players, 2 SA = 2,86% SA. Been a pattern i have seen already before the pricing updates that SA became less popular and the first 2 team tournaments i see only confirm it.

  • @Palomita15 that is probably when we've had the LAB? Interesting analysis else of how the SA in T9A developed

  • I'm in love with Supernatural Dex and Know Thine Enemy, it is the combo when you already have reroll 1s to hit.