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  • Quote from Palomita15: “Now we have a lot interesting things in core 630 -30 saurian warriors FCG jaguar 135- 2x15 Skinks 505 - 30 Skinks 3 Krox Banner, Champion 135 - 3x15 skinks I always loved skinks + poisoned javelins, but not sure now about that, anyway we have a lot interesting options now, not just in core ” 4*20 with poisoned javs and muso = 920 just saying...

  • Quote from Perch: “Overall seems to me like a small step in the right direction. Looking at my last list which I posted in this thread during 2.1 beta I am not thrilled though. Roster went down by 15 points and entire amount need to be spend on core units. Kinky cuatl lord build is not possible anymore (ancient knowledge + breaker of spells + symbiosis), but it is nothing to cry about. Also my skink captains on alpha pteradons from being discounted by 5 pts (base hero cost -5 pts on beta 2.1) be…

  • Cowboy talk

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    Im a huge fan of the 1+/1+ vet but why make him bsb? It stops him running off solo as you need the bsb bubble and he goes from 375 when he dies to 625 which is a crazy difference.

  • Quote from yrtomin: “I’m a little bit sad that the double alpha with tauro engine is no longer possible. ” Honestly didn't even know this was possible. Will raise it as a combo that was fine but is now gone.

  • Quote from MountainBuns: “The character selection is a bit more boring. Some feedback. Example 1. Alpha has one build now; gotta take the starfall shard now. Ex2. Priest took a lot of nerfs (palanquin, shamanism spell 1, sun tablet, arcane book of mastery) while the cuatl got a bit more interesting so if we want magic we just take the cuatl, priest is gone. Ex3. Having played some games with the veteran carno I can say it bottlenecks into one of two builds (death cheater or dusk+basalt). Would b…

  • Quote from Just_Flo: “Is the Belgien one with post or pre update lists? ” Post update lists.

  • I'm with Zamo, 2*15 skinks are just cheaper, more useful and all around better than 1 block of 40. Scaiman have been working well as part of a combat msu list as they tag in to break steadfast quite well in addition to solving a list weakness of cowboys/nonsense characters. Scaiman plus monster or two usually auto breaks most bricks. Losing 10+ skinks is meaningless when you kill 20+ halberds/ferals/spear elves.

  • Id like to point to the top two etc lists neither of which played temple guard and both ran relatively cheap cuatls. 15 skinks does most of the work of 900pts of temple guard.

  • Essentially we are all making the same point, @Klexe competent players don't gamble their 1000pt+ mage on dice being average when they can just stick him in 15 skinks and be safe. If that's how you like to play then fine but it will cost you games and is not something I'd recommend or advocate on the forums especially to newer players. Maybe we need a things you shouldn't do with your cuatl or stupid ways to lose the game thread...

  • Quote from Twisted Magpie: “Quote from Perch: “Some grief about SA book comes when we compare past of the project to the present time. For example let's take a look at 1.0.0 version (30 April 2016) of SA core units options, which sadly disappeared: - Saurian Warriors: start from 10 models, can get different totem animals on various units, - Skink Braves: start from 10 models, have mundane Javelins included, can purchase poisoned cc attacks upgrade, may choose skirmish (maximum 15 skinks per unit…

  • Quote from Traumdieb: “Quote from Twisted Magpie: “I honestly think that the Cuatl should be one of the most powerful casters on the game and should cost more than others. ” Serious which mage is stronger? Apart from nosferatu? The only thing that was nerved was cuatl and skink priest with the book and tablet. I had five spells per phase with 2+ to cast my opponent had the choice to ban one thing (touch of the reaper, hasten the hour and break the spirit). Only vs. something with a lot of healin…

  • Im happy to play either(or both) depending on where you need the numbers.

  • Quote from marcema: “Quote from Cuendae: “Now we can play true MSU list: 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 1 Caiman Ancient @ 200 Pts 26 Saurian Warriors @ 638 Pts Spear; Shield; Standard; Musician, champion Banner of Relentless Company [40] 15 Skink Braves @ 135 Pts 15 Skink Braves @ 135 Pts 3 Pteradon Sentries @ 18…

  • Quote from Keumy: “Quote from Zamo: “I said it a looooong time ago... and is still a problem: This army is Cuatl dependant... and Cuatl CONDITIONS IT ALL AROUND HIM...ALL ” I could not say it any better... Having an overpriced and over evaluated average level master that can become very good (if you want to risque losing 2000pts in one unit) was digestible so far... Most people who wanted something else would play 1-2 buffed skinks on palanquin or stygio... now most of what makes skink great jus…

  • Official SA update thread

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    Quote from Sander: “I never saw the role of pteradons. In my eyes, they die when you touch them, dont do much damage and are too expensive to chaff. So what do ypu do with ‘em? ” Pteradons are part of the infamous double flee trick. You have two units and position both to chaff an opposing unit, they charge one, you flee to safety, they redirect into the other, you flee again. Now the key part is both units have fast cavalry rule so when they rally, they fly march back to chaff the opposing unit…

  • Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “Quote from Zamo: “If he had 5A I would consider it... With 4 miserable attacks i dont. To do 1-2 wounds im not using this guy. I rather pay a bit more for a stygiosaur. ” For now I would like to have an Ancient instead. Both look appealing in their own way.It seems patch actually solved some issues since we're having this discussion about choices we can make. Quote from marcema: “What about running 2 cowboys? Basalt, Dexterity seems viable. How about adding one with Tau…

  • Official SA update thread

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    Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “@Ipower @marcema 5Hz5M8r.png Mounter Tauro options ” Thanks, will pass them on

  • Quote from marcema: “Quote from raven: “Hey lizards ! I have a good new ! We can land even more dinosaurs !!! Isn't it a good news ?? That's for me one of the most important reason i play this army. i can land now 2 baby carno plus 3 stygio for even less points than before ! With skink priest support (1-2 adept druidism) and a biiiiig saurian warrior with spear. Or a cuatl in TG (25) and serpent spear warrior. Have fun ! Me -> <-others ” You can even field 2x thyroscytus snake altar, 2x stygio, …

  • @Traumdieb really? You are complaining the price of skink Caiman units dropped too much? There really is no way the staff can do anything right. This update focused on internal balance for us mostly with some buffs (we have way more buffs than nerfs). If in two months we are still underperforming then we will be buffed more. As for people who want to play competitive, yes you probably have to rewrite your list from scratch. That's kinda what happens after an update. Trust me there's some strong …

  • Official SA update thread

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    Quote from fjugin: “According to out data In tournament lists it sees roughly average use, but is actually more used than other items. EE rates it average (3.4 on grade 1-6), community as 3.6. This data doesn't really give us the indication that it deserves a price cut. They all point towards raptor spirit being a balanced item. ” Latest from RT on Raptor spirit.