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  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Mike newman: “Quote from Mike newman: “Quote from Lich King: “(Hidden Content)Guys, could you please calm down a bit? I know, seeing that your army gets one nerf after another, is some kind of frustrating. But it also represents our pre-patch tier. Anyways, let's make the best out of it. I've just been playing around with a post-patch von Karnstein list. It became cheaper by about 80 points which is nice ( means more great bats ). Been playing this list before the patch already quite …

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from eggsPR: “And I am one of the experts for feedback (whereby 0% of my feedback was enacted, but that’s par for the course which explains why response rate amongst experts is so dismal) ” Do you think your feedback is army specific? Do you think you're very objective? Well, something I can tell you is: no one is absolutely objective when it comes to balancing his own army! That's exactly why RT chose to go for data-driven balance patches. That's exactly why your feedback was worth the sa…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from eggsPR: “I’ve won tournies with units whereby what many seemed to have thought they’d have been selected at random. I don’t need to prove anything, except that there is a force behind VC nerfs, and it ain’t data driven..... ” C'mon! You can't be serious here, mate. Join the TA team and @Just_Flo will maybe provide you the insights you need to prove me wrong.

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from MalachitTheDark: “Yes Wesser, you can go to ETC and prove the greatness of VonK, Skellys and Barrow Knights. Oh, and Altars off course ;))) ” Dude, we can try to discuss on a reasonable base or we can start making fun of each other. If you want to go for the second I'd recommend you to use the Meme Thread.

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from eggsPR: “Lich King, I do know the process, hence my reaction which I think is reasonable. How many times have I complained like this in prior patches? None, bc I accept that balance is necessary. Having said that, this was not balance. What happened to VC was IMO a result of non-data-driven malice and I, as a supposed champion of the VC community have a responsibility to call it out. Meanwhile enjoy your skeletons and black knights without suffering and swift death - I’m confident it …

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from MalachitTheDark: “Quote from Lich King: “Quote from MalachitTheDark: “It seems like we have to play skellys and zombies for the whole year and then in next patch our Swift Death units will get price drop as underused units. Like that? ” You know yourself, that this post was just dumb, don't you? Mate! All the lists currently played are still playable. There have been no big changes, unless I missed something...then please be so kind and point me to it. Otherwise the only thing that ai…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Vesemirus: “Well f**k logic... when you choose between garbage and usable and you didn't pick garbage RT is punishing you by nerfing usable units... Great, just freakin great. BTW did steam tank, one of most used units, get nerfed? Oh wait... ” Indeed it got nerfed in the first patch. That was regulated now a bit in patch two. You shouldn't compare peaches to apple, you know? What tier was EoS before the patch and what tier was VC before? What did you even expect? Buffs? C'mon! Furthe…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from MalachitTheDark: “It seems like we have to play skellys and zombies for the whole year and then in next patch our Swift Death units will get price drop as underused units. Like that? ” You know yourself, that this post was just senseless, don't you? Mate! All the lists currently played are still playable. There have been no big changes, unless I missed something...then please be so kind and point me to it. Otherwise the only thing that ain't playable anymore is the double Shrieking Ho…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Guys, could you please calm down a bit? I know, seeing that your army gets one nerf after another, is some kind of frustrating. But it also represents our pre-patch tier. Anyways, let's make the best out of it. I've just been playing around with a post-patch von Karnstein list. It became cheaper by about 80 points which is nice ( means more great bats ). Been playing this list before the patch already quite successfully. It's consisting of 14 Barrow Knights with a von Karnstein Vampire Count in …

  • “Karkadraks” eh?

    Lich King - - General Discussion

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    Quote from WastelandWarrior: “Who cares what they believe? Noone i know that actively plays t9a is tempted to go running back to gw. It is true that anyome who doesnt play t9a hates on us pretty hard but its their loss ” I do care. Because we'll need to be interesting for new tabletopers too to make our system.stable for more than only 2 more years. We'll always have players leave T9A and less players joining us for some reason. And such prejudices are very contra-productive when you try to incr…

  • “Karkadraks” eh?

    Lich King - - General Discussion

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    Quote from Tyranno: “Quote from Lich King: “The point that makes me a bit sad about this fact is, that they're underlining an already existing prejudice of us T9A players: we are just embittered old guys crying after our beloved old WHFB and so decided to set up a self-aid group in this forums and write our own rules which are badly copied WHFB rules essentially. That's what I've heard a lot of times by visitors and workers at Warhammer Shops, but also by independent retailers and friends. ” Wel…

  • “Karkadraks” eh?

    Lich King - - General Discussion

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    I'm not scared of GW using similar terms to name their models like we do. And I wouldn't say it matters too much from an IP or TM perspective. At least for us. The point that makes me a bit sad about this fact is, that they're underlining an already existing prejudice of us T9A players: we are just embittered old guys crying after our beloved old WHFB and so decided to set up a self-aid group in this forums and write our own rules which are badly copied WHFB rules essentially. That's what I've h…

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from Grouchy Badger: “Quote from Wesser: “Just had a game ending prematurely for... reasons Must say I underestimated VonK with Unbreakable Will. 55 Spears with Count figthing 4 units on 3 sides. But with Unbreakable Will, BsB, Cadaver Wagon and Court all in range they just wouldnt go down Otoh...seeing Cadaver Wagon in ideal conditions. Not worth its points- not by a long shot. Ive been saying 250 points for a while. Im wondering if even tha…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Lich King - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from Shako: “Quote from Lich King: “Quote from Eldan: “Eh. Musicians still do plenty of things without the big bell and for the heroes, just don't buy bell equipment. It wouldn't use too much rule space either. Just a sentence in the bell's description. Something like "Ringing the bell: do X, with a +1 bonus for every friendly musician or other bell within 24" of the bell". ” Balancewise that is quite hard to do. Either you make the Bell expensive because there can potentially be like 20 M…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Lich King - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from Eldan: “Eh. Musicians still do plenty of things without the big bell and for the heroes, just don't buy bell equipment. It wouldn't use too much rule space either. Just a sentence in the bell's description. Something like "Ringing the bell: do X, with a +1 bonus for every friendly musician or other bell within 24" of the bell". ” Balancewise that is quite hard to do. Either you make the Bell expensive because there can potentially be like 20 Musicians on the board or you make the Musi…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

    Lich King - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    Quote from Eldan: “I still like the idea of big and little bells. Make it an army theme! Bells as an equipment for non-assassin characters. Musicians count as bells. The more bells on the field, the stronger the effect of the big one. Encourages bringing multiple units of core infantry, too. ” Yeah, and forces you to field the big bell to make use out of it.

  • I really can't see the problem with paying 25% in core for bloodline armies. Depending on playstyle and army list of course. But I personally gladly pay 5% more in core for being magic independent in the first few rounds (don't have to increase my skeletons). That's even more true when leaving home without a Necromancer or Nosferatu. So, again: for me it's either depending on my playstyle and list then, not a question about playing independent or bloodline army. And I don't see any problem with …

  • Quote from Rellzed: “Quote from Lich King: “Yep, and it made my lists become even cheaper ” a little spoiler pls?? ” No, sorry. I karn't. Maybe to-knight.

  • Yep, and it made my lists become even cheaper

  • Patch 2.1 Beta Feedback

    Lich King - - Vampire Covenant (VC)

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    Quote from Kdownunder: “Isn't it the same issue with other armies as well. Last sylvan elf army I played was consisting 95% non elves. Not all the HBE are high born, just the leaders. It's just given name because they are the uncontested rulers of the damned. ” And by the way: the army is called Vampire COVENANT. From what I've read regarding the background there is more than enough space to bring in all the current book entries. Though I do see the problem with the amount of unit entries when i…