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  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    I never could do much with my chariots, usually my infantry blocks won the game (i.e not that often :D) How do you usually use them? I mean, besides zoning which I don't see as an option when you invest in 10. And especially against elves with their 9" advance cav...!

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Do you think 1 is enough, or that 2 are preferable? (As in, 2 actually better than the impact of 1 times 2 - not sure I'm all that clear)

  • Army Census Poll

    Idum - - General Discussion

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    Interesting data in there, thank you for sharing @Calisson! Generally speaking, what keeps us from doing more polls? People to write, analyse? Not a daily occurrence of course - but for instance once a year about a quarter after releasing the balance update to assess it.

  • Army Census Poll

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    It interesting as well to ask which of these they intend to play in the coming 6 or 12 months. I have 3 (maybe 4 with some stretch) at 4500+, but actually only play with 1 and I suspect a good amount of players here are in the same situation.

  • Question...

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    BH were not popular in GW's time despite good models since WFB6, when they were a supplement to the chaos army. They were openly depicted and treated as low tier Chaos lackeys - think about the early levels monsters you'd meet in any Diablo-likes This legacy did not help: less people had an army ready than for other factions, less exposure, etc. On top of that, game-wise the reasons have been carried through: BH have no LAB yet, limited lore, similar structure and playstyle as in WFB8 so there i…

  • As several pointed out, if GW's goal is to take back the low fantasy or rank & file section that they have given up then KoW, T9A and other alternatives will be their competitors. If they put actual will into it, GW will bring in people, making casual games ready to find due to the player base. Each T9A player that leave will not be replaced by a W:TOW one, leading to an eroding player base which is not that large already. T9A is certainly not doomed and had a lot to show, but shrugging off this…

  • Seems like W:TOW will really be only centered on the old world, i.e Warhammer Europe. Exit lizards, dark/high elves, tomb kings, ogres? This might be a point to work on to keep an edge. Another strong selling point: Homebrew! They existed for WFB but were never recognized or mentioned in any way. Finding a way to somehow include, endorse them or improve their visibility should be a lead. Similarly to mods boosting video games - or lack thereof / restriction killing off some (cf. Warcraft reforge…

  • Unshelved BH to let a friend practice for a tourney. Considering he is WAY better than me and that I felt BH stood no chance against his list, I am quite satisfied with a minor loss (HbE got scenario)! BH vs HbE 9-11 MVP: razortusks LVP: centaurs + all 3 ambushers + beast chief. Basically I had (don't recall exactly, I played one of his potential pairings): - Lord in razor cart /fatal folly - BBChieftain on foot, 2+ Arm vs non magic (too fragile build given his pivotal role) - Soothsayer druidis…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Love the March of the Jabber idea! I might get BH off the shelve (finally a reason to get the FW Warpfire dragon displayed by @arnadil!) Edit: Warpfire dragon is discontinued...

  • Centaur cowboy

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    I tried centaur chieftain with PW, blessed inscriptions, wildform. Get drunk just before charging. That's 5 attacks Str 5 to 7, reroll to hit & to wound, divine, Agi5. Should be enough to get rid of most things with <5HP, and can be paired with one of the builds you mentioned. Other options: Beast Lord, ranger boots, blessed inscriptions, PW (or GW), destiny's call: a bit slower and less flexible but tankier. Beast chieftain, ambush, wildform, PW, hero's heart: opponent will have to castle prett…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from duxbuse: “Quote from cmccracken86: “I like BH a lot .. but i have the problem that the wildhorns are basically garbage verse almost everything. And when i think of a beast HERDS army .. i think .. HERDS of guys .. not 30 wildhorns and then a bunch of random big monsters. I think a lot of stuff in the list is in a good place - Gortach is fine - Chariots are good - Pigs are good - Characters are good - Centaurs are great - although they should get the horse armor bonus since .. they are…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    I'd love to have the choice whether to roll for ambushers to get in or not. For now it is only possible on turn 1, and most likely all ambushers are in turn 2: but more than once I'd rather have a unit stand by, for instance to set up a two-fold ambush: first wave T2 as bait to create an opening, second wave T3 to jump in! Doing so with T1 / T2 as it is possible atm is harder as I usually struggle to get enough threat/realistic combo charges in range T2 to support.

  • Quote from duxbuse: “your army BH opponent's army SE score: 20-0 MVP: Soothsayer chariot with sacrification and tricksters cunning. LVP: 40 longhorns with general who turn 2 fled from 4 kestrals knights and were cut down. ” 40 LH + General is ~1400 VP for your opponent, how could you score 20-0?

  • BH (me) vs OnG goblins 3-17 MVP: ambush longhorns LVP: double Cyclops + gortach

  • BH (me) vs UD terracotta 14-6 MVP: none in particular, they worked in conjunction LVP: triple Cyclops + cowboy beastlord I wanted to try something else, so I went with no mino, gortach or killy character and gave (yet) another chance to Cyclops, which I tried by 1, by 2 and now by 3. The beastlord cowboy failed despite infiltrating UD lines where he should have been able to kill both wizards + general. Hawthorne to blame, next time I'll use blessed inscriptions. Shot 2 times, did 1 wound, subpar…

  • square bases for AoS ?!

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    Just thinking: the Old World is not the way WFB is referred to in the new lore afaik (the world that was?) So I believe this would be a much more focused approach, limited to 1 continent (the old world...) Casting a doubt then of the tomb kings, saurians, elves, ogres - without even mentioning Cathay, Ind or Nippon. T9A may have a good ammunition there, developing non-European factions. Then of course Mordheim had more factions than WFB and extensions brought it beyond the city so I may be overt…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Let us know how it went! Personnally I struggle to deal with such flyer. If they are a threat I commit several units to zone it, bait with counter charges, protect some units in forest before until they charge out, etc. If it's a 1k pts single chariot (March 9"?), with the same amount of points you may outmaneuver, zone, or force into bad choice. I know it's very generic advice, tell us the story afterwards! Don't hesitate to open a dedicated thread.

  • square bases for AoS ?!

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    Rather, GW has the marketing power to get players in and reach the critical mass needed to ensure you can find an active club anywhere. It would be a mistake to be arrogant and pretend nothing happened, or take it for granted that GW will make a mistake. Luckily we have a couple years to take action. I am not sure if the life time GW plans for this revival, we'd rather make a set of potential scenarios, impacts, and how to work with it.

  • square bases for AoS ?!

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    I got both round and square everytime when ordering online (at least for models supposed to have switched to round, like BH)

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Maybe with 1 of them evocation, 1 with void talisman, and capitalize on the seed. Agreed with @Hruggek, most likely there will be one master too much especially considering you also have GTB... But there's only one way to know