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  • The Issue of Barrow Guard

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    Quote from Cicciuz: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from Cicciuz: “I ve read on some other posts people suggesting Lamia general w commandment not being a wise choice in a barrow guard unit.. could you please explain why as to me it just sounds incredibly good! ” Its decent enough. All the advantages and disadvantages of an M4 DeathstarIf you want to know the disadvantages.. - Absurd cost - M4 without Swiftstride makes you slow and chaffable - Losing the unit is probably losing the game - To take adv…

  • The Issue of Barrow Guard

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    Quote from Cicciuz: “I ve read on some other posts people suggesting Lamia general w commandment not being a wise choice in a barrow guard unit.. could you please explain why as to me it just sounds incredibly good! ” Its decent enough. All the advantages and disadvantages of an M4 Deathstar If you want to know the disadvantages.. - Absurd cost - M4 without Swiftstride makes you slow and chaffable - Losing the unit is probably losing the game - To take advantage of Stubborn means chaining your G…

  • Patch 2.2 Feedback

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    Quote from Traumdieb: “I am new at VC but aftet writing some lists, here a thing that bothers me or is a pretty dead option: Vampire Courtier in a bloodline army, except nosferatu. He is in so many ways poorer than Barrow King. Less hp, no bodyguard in barrow guard, can only take 100 pts items. Also you pay the same amout per Bloodlineupgrade for a courtier as count and have never the same benefit. ” Barrow King has one build and while its true Courtiers pay the same for powers as Counts lets no…

  • Quote from Giladis: “Fleshbeast is right. What is represented via Resistance in T9A is slightly different from what is being represented by Toughness in WHFB.. If they ” Why would Hulks not care about pain though? If they were too crazed they'd have Frenzy. If they were too stupid.. they'd be Stupid or at least have low DI. Instead they have DI6 and SiN as well as Swift Reform (unlike nearly every other MI unit that don't get command groups). Clearly Hulks are intelligent, highly disciplined tro…

  • Quote from Scylla: “Quote from Shugdaddy: “Abomination Vermin Hulks ” These units work well in their current iteration and I really enjoy the Res 5 of the VH, but they lack a bit of identity imho. Some specific rules and/or more customization options could make them more fun to play. ” That Hulks over time lost both Frenzy and Stupidity AND Packmasters totally ruined the unit IMO. With GW they were voracious and nearless mindless brutes that had to be reared and goaded into combat (at great risk…

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

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    Quote from arwaker: “Well, as long as people keep playing not heavy on slaves and rat@arms, grenadiers will stay unattractive. That's just in their design. They don't need much range when anyway shooting in your combats. But wounding own models is expensive in cases of Brotherhood and VerminGuard. When people begin to play something like 2x40R@A + 2x40Slaves in their 4500, Grenadiers immediately become attractive. Current problem is not related to Grenadiers, but to the (not) cheap (enough?) inf…

  • Lost bloodlines

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    Quote from JimMorr: “Quote from Wesser: “I really hope not... each Dark God spawning a Vampire bloodline is what? A Backup plan? ” I read it the other way. Mortals dreams, fears, desires have been mirrored by the Seven. They are the strongest emotions, they are what drives the mortals. That is why vampires followed the same pattern... they are not creation of Dark Gods. They are result of human (elven/dwarven) nature. Much like Seven created by Chaos. ” Bah So conceptually Vampires are WDG guys …

  • I often run 5 and while they can be serviceable monster chaff and whatnot I can't afford to babysit them enough to ensure they get to march. Hence they often get one of 2 roles: 1. Heavy Chaff. Chugged into the middle of the board in Turn 1. Basic job is to make the enemy's movement difficult as he try to cover vulnerable units. Ideally they run towards some juicy impassable terrain, so they can choose to backfield harass if they want… and sometimes they just chaff things 2. Flank protection. Ju…

  • Lost bloodlines

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    I really hope not... each Dark God spawning a Vampire bloodline is what? A Backup plan? And I REALLY don't see Blood Dragons relating to Wrath. Khorne/Wrath was always about might/strength while BOTD is more skill/control (at least thats always been my interpretation) and yes I believe Crimson Rage has an unfortunate name. ACS or not.. there's no way I'm promoting such an awful idea

  • Quote from Giladis: “Quote from CariadocThorne: “naked SE WH prince, ” That is not naked. It includes an upgrade. Furthermore both HE and SE are yet to go through their LAB transformation. As shown in the guidelines DE are meant to be the CC elves from the damage output perspective. In other words neither HE nor SE characters should expect to have more damage output than equivalent DE characters. Or to put into design terms their damage eliteness will be higher but all three should have comparab…

  • Quote from CariadocThorne: “Quote from Giladis: “The latest Scroll has a preview of the thought direction of for two DE characters. https://www.the-ninth-age.com/community/filebase/index.php?file/986-9th-scroll-issue-20-march-1st-2020/ Maybe you can draw some inspiration from it for SE ” I like them both, but I was just wondering whether there is a change of direction here. The Manslayer looks like a powerful individual fighter, so I was wondering whether this means a relaxation of the previous …

  • Quote from supermercado08: “I do find them a bit annoying. I want to run with BG but in order to do that you have to drop 1/4-1/2 your points into them are they are useless. Then once you have dropped all those points into them they never see combat, so I have given up on trying to figure out how to make them work. The very few times I have ever been able to get them into a good combat is because my opponent flubbed a charge roll and somehow ended up in range of them. ” Yes, it ends up that way …

  • Well the banner is an obvious flawed design that has to be done away with in the new book. Apart from that BG is a unit that needs to be build around. Thats okay because theres plenty of ways to do that. I agree its a little Strange that the unit by itself is pretty non-functional and is largely a sum of its synergies. For example you never see Them in BOTD and Strigoi lists for that very reason, but in the context of the whole list its plenty viable.

  • BERMEO (v 2.2) VC Lists

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    Quote from VampsinMD: “spectral hunters getting some bump... they seem to be one of the value picks in the book right now. good synergy with alchemy attribute too (available in one list above). ” Never Got that to work. STR5 means wounding isnt the issue for these guys... its hitting stuff

  • BERMEO (v 2.2) VC Lists

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    Quote from hugomac: “Quote from Wesser: “Revenant Count General without Eternity Gem? Risky... ” There are few warmachines in the meta nowadays, and it´s a team tournament, so i can avoid the harder matchups. Apart of that, i can always hide behind the SH, XDD What are much more than expected is alchemy. In that meta, my configuration is the way. ” Meta is meta (I mean Alchemy... cant remember facing that lore since I don't even know), but I still think it's risky and the SH also block your own …

  • Quote from ArchangelusM: “Hero level chars that are not dirt cheap (eg. Goblins) ” As if those don't have their own issues. A Goblin is 2 HP and DI7 which means a Goblin BsB folds to the first snipe spell that hit him. Quote from Squee: “Quote from CariadocThorne: “So I'm not saying it should be nerfed (despite feeling it is slightly too good ATM), all I'm saying is that it is a really good option, and even the worse alternatives HE have aren't actually as bad as some people here are making them…

  • Eh, doesn't really scream Wood elves huh?

  • VS Brainstorming for LAB

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    Shouldnt that fight in extra ranks banner just be a VS special rule? To really encourage Big units that can muster tonnes of low-quality attacks More than Monsters and the silly steampunk thats the niche in the world that the rats should occupy IMO

  • BERMEO (v 2.2) VC Lists

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    Revenant Count General without Eternity Gem? Risky... I can't quite wrap my head around the VonK list. Seems vulnerable to so many things... The Strigoi list is a one hit wonder that had better hope it doesn't come against things it don't want to rush. I'd personally have a list with a bit more of a plan B available... Manix' list is my favourite by far

  • Quote from Rothulf: “I would like to see more "forest interactions". I see sylvan elves as ambushers, coming out of the woods and surprising enemies. Ideas about it: - 5+ Aegis for infantry elves in the forest vs ranged attacks (shooting and spells) - +1A / 2M for Trees if they start or end their move in a forest - reroll charge range for cavalry models when charging out of a forest - Models shooting out of the forest measure their range from the forest boarder More ideas can be found, I would n…