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  • Uploaded all remaining ones, BH are up to date. B03 LBM2020 Polasky's list is not legal (multiple armour enchantments on same character, impossible option combinations on units), I uploaded it but it should be ignored for analysis.

  • Updated with model suggestion + QS premade list

  • New version is up! Big visual changes with illustrations and unique logos! Using traditional paintings and extracts from the Huolon Jing, slightly modified to work together as intended. Everything is Public Domain Characters got proper immersive names for which I thank my wife . They are recognizable from their statlines and options; other entries the names stay as they are to ensure a good understanding of what each is. Thanks to @Tyranno feedback and combined with the issues I mentioned previo…

  • Quote from Sidereo: “Not unlikely that you have already spotted them, but the Dragon Empire miniatures from Titanforge fit this army perfectly! I have all the STLs for them and fell in absolute love, but there was no way to field them yet in T9A. The Dragon Empire is more of a mild blend of Chinese and Japanese in terms of aesthetics, but I really do like them and already found some applications for your specific army. STLs: myminifactory.com/users/TitanForgeMiniatures Physical models: titan-for…

  • Thank you @Bretboy84 for the link and authorization to use the material! @Tyranno thank you for the detailed an constructive feedback, many good points I overlooked thumbup.png Below are first propositions how to move forward from there. It is numbered to make it easier to discuss only a single point, needless to adress them all at once! (Hidden Content) Quote from Tyranno: “That's all I can spot for now. I didn't look at points costs due to this being so new to me, so I just tried to help with …

  • Hey there, After some (vacuum) testing it appears some options are subpar while others are overpowered. Post if you found outliers or suspect/worry about some, so far these seem the most problematic: Subpar: - Impregnable tortoise: +2 Arm vs. ranged is good, but preventing from March and limiting to infantry with shield less especially because such unit would mostly be anvils with respectable body count and projecting no threat, so not a primary target: - Can it be fixed? Remove shield condition…

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    It is rather slow for a fast army (March 8"). It can absolutely work but not as straightforwad as one may think, especially in a list heavy on minos (12"), gortach (14") and centaurs (16"). Also, Soothsayer with Ancestral Carving/Armour/Chariot is 235pts, same price as Chieftain with Axe/Chariot and comparable output (3 Att S5, R5, 4HP... one has Def 7 the other is distracting), it can be a good alternative depending on what you need most - a bit of extra magic flexibility (soothsayer) or a bit …

  • 2.0 BH Beta Discussion Thread

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    Quote from Firthunands91: “That combo looks cheesy! You don't suffer the -1Str and AP right? I was taking a look at the book just today to give my Asklanders a "Legal" ArmyBook option, and I thought about using it, too! Razortusks left me impressed too, since my Wards will work as them. Their statline is impressive. The part I'm struggling the most is their core. ” Correct! I used a set up of beast chieftain in ambush with PW, HH, Wildform. Opponent has to castle really hard to block that and th…

  • Hum, that was short but here is a quick update! I'll let it as is for some time to gather feedback: the only updates will be hotfixes (hopefully none required: it's perfect already! ) and models suggestions. Version 1.11 (2020/04/10) (Hidden Content)

  • Uploaded A1, A2, A3 and A6. Of note: - A2 used older version of the rules; - A4 had no BH player; - A5 dead link. So Axx are done, at least until A5 is made available. I glanced over Bxx as well, the following can be safely skipped due to no BH in there: B01, B06, B07, B08, B14. I could not check B11 as it seems only HbE lists are available. For the others I estimate a bit over 20 BH lists total.

  • Factions tier list

    Idum - - General Discussion

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    No update that I know of! Last round of updates came end of December 2019 so tournaments started with this update around mid January and ended early March due to the current situation. 1,5 months worth of data are not enough to make a significant analysis. Regarding gut feeling that depends both on meta and opponents. For instance I only played the same excellent HBE player (twice) with my BH so I'd say they are top tier... but it's really just skill gap. No objective estimate, you may only get …

  • Not necessary, you can just slap a heavy armour/shield/BAxe and go! They're all res5. Just keep in mind that BH need to reliably pass their dis test to not run away after T1 shooting and get rerolls in melee. There are ways to circumvent (soothsayer sacrifice, crown of horns, drunk/fearless/insignificant units) but stay careful to not offer your characters for the taking if going light.

  • Quote from Ghiznuk: “Oh, and since we are at it, maybe some foreign intervention would be nice, like from Ogre Khans or Highborn Elves Don't know how that would fit in your timeline though ” Only one such project at a time in the foreseeable future unfortunately Ogres (refugees probably) are enrolled as auxiliaries by some warring states, for now that's the closest in terms of foreign presence! Some entries, notably auxiliaries, can freely be interpreted as foreign troops. PDF updated in origina…

  • Razortusk Herd

    Idum - - Beast Herds (BH)

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    I use boars from AoS dual kit orc riders. A bit of GS and kitbashing and that's it. Fenrisian wolves are 40mm round bases according to the description so the wolves themselves should be around 60mm long with tail, 35-40mm high and a bit over 15mm large at the shoulders. It might be a bit narrow, depending on your preference. Picture & size comparison for the boars I used: full unit + size comparison with metal GW razorgor in the middle -a bit larger- and GW gor. the-ninth-age.com/community/ga…8f…

  • Quote from Ghiznuk: “Hello, excellent work ! From the lore sources you mention, it seems you forgot the one in the UD illustrated army book, that mentions the country having been ruled by human dynasties before the dragon-emperor. The tombs of those ancient tsuandanese emperors are guarded by the Terracotta Army. And up to this day, there surely are some partisans of the old human dynasties wishing to oust the dragon, who use ancient rituals to awake the Terracotta Army and wage war on the usurp…

  • Good catch, thank you! I just rechecked and found a few other mentions of it (Immortal Emissary), it's in the fixes to be made for next revision (probably within a week). Originally it was named Unfair Warfare, I changed it over worries of how it sounds (horrible when I -try to- pronounce it) but if it is understandable consider it back already! It fits the army and describes the category better, featuring unusual means to victory (at least for human factions) with spies, giants and/or otherword…

  • During the country wide quarantine so far... I finished a Homebrew project started months ago! Posted earlier today in the Homebrew section: Tsuandan Warring States This was actually despite the pandemic which increased my workload: most likely I won't do much more in the near future...!

  • MODELS SUGGESTIONS Several ranges to admire and take inspiration! At first, general links to the main ranges and promising kickstarters (at least until they are moved to the companies' stores) - Watchful I Studio: link to their store, basically their whole (own) range works for Tsuandan Warring States; it can be used also for UD Terracotta and their upcoming project Xiongnu Empire should be perfect for Makhar! - Titan Forge's Dragon Empire (thanks @Sidereo!): physical range and STLs - this range…

  • ARMY OVERVIEW The army is focused on infantry, with human stats. Characters and elites have superior Off/Def. It has a large amount of attacks both at range and melee, but low Str & AP even on artillery, with few exceptions. It is vulnerable to psychology at a few exceptions (some fearless, some insignificant) but Line of Command may help with that. Terror bombs still work though, and Line of Command disruption may be catastrophic. Entries follow a specific segment: standard units with levy and …

  • LINK TO PDF (Drive):Tsuandan Warring States (Dropbox): Tsuandan Warring States QuickStarter premade list: Drive, Dropbox > PM me if you want earlier versions, editable document or cannot access the platform. First of all, I would like to thank Mathias Eliasson from Warhammer Fantasy Battle Army Project (warhammerarmiesproject.blogspo…d-page-for-ios-users.html) and Quidifer (the-ninth-age.com/community/in…ire-wap-s-cathay-for-t9a/) for their work on the subject. Mathias made a very rich book for …