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  • I think you need to play ID. ID have Vassal conjurer, but if you want the vassal conjurer you need to pay for a Vassal levy unit to hide him, so you are paying 330 pts for an adapte, and he can't take the H. ID can shoot, but if they march full speed to shoot you, you can charge them, and if ID march, they don't shoot with 3 ranks (citadel). We can think that no one will play CG, so we move forward with what? IW with BB? and i supouse we want to maximize his efficency, so you will put some slave…

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    Villon - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    yeah was good, but 1000 points... was too much, my friend used to play it too, but is hard to succeed

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    Villon - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    I'm not talking about the special rule. Some people love it, some people hate it, some people doesn't care at all. I'm talking about the utility of Lammasu. - We have a flying monster that share slot with Bulls - Not good in combat, just 2 att str 4 + 2 att str 5... - With no ranged damage, - With only 4HP res 5 4+ 5++, seems good, but he dies quite easy against anything with clipped (like other large flying monsters) - He can be used to "buff" Kadims or others Brands - We have some good spells …

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    Villon - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    We have a good book to play no, is not the best, is not the final, but we can play it and have success. What we need to see is, how it works in a competitive environtment? - Can we have more than 1 successful list? - Can we field a lot of different units? I have some units like Lammassu, that i don't know how to play it. Some people loves it, but i can't make him work. Do any of you had success with it? and in combination with another Prophet? Vassal Conjurer? Wich spell selection?

  • Quote from Tsagadai: “Is the harnessed part of Seat of Authority meant to have Battle Focus? It probably should as those vassals are going to be the most keen to impress their overlord (and the only reason I can see that it doesn't is that Bound and Broken isn't on that model part). It probably should also get reroll failed charges as well to ensure consistency. ” I used the seat in my last game, and i noticed too, but i think that was designed in this way, as he is a "dwarf" but will be better …

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    Villon - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    i won 16-4 with beta 2 last saturday, so I think we can What i need to try and see if other lists and playstyles are possible now

  • uo, i love thos models of CMON too

  • beautiful models, but they are 32mm? maybe a bit tall?

  • Played my EoS after some weeks * Your Army * Opponent's Army * Score * MVP EoS * LVP EoS * EoS * WoDG * 17-3 * IG + wagons * Cannon Deployment: Dawn Assault Map 16 (v4.0) Secondary objectives: Secure Target Cannon was the LVP because my flagges decided to fail all frenzy test (with disc 9 rerolling) and charging here and there, and in turn 2 his Feldrak Elder were in combat with my hangunners... luckyly, i managed to kill them with a bit of luck with my IG, magic and shooting. After both Feldrak…

  • Another Manslayer from my friend @Errtu Arthai Arthai's great sword was moving with great speed before the eyes of the enemy,the blows came from all directions with little time to stop them with the shield and his sword. Among his men, they had always considered him one of the best swordsmen, but before that woman with sooty skin, the veteran warrior seemedlike a boy playing with a stick.Arthai's rush did not stop, he smiled playing with his enemy, knowingly how that combat would end ... with th…

  • I don't think that ID have lost that much... If we look at the changes bastion 360 and anti wall distracting FiER in CG March and oil flask on Vassal Parry on immortals and a "slightly" different rule A new Hereditary Incarnates now have Ghost Step Clipped Wings of Rocket Parry on Infernal Engine which of this things are extremly hard to lose, to say that ID are not unique anymore? And I don't talk about what they "gained"

  • This Battle Line issue can be solved? We have Kadim Chariot, Kadim Incarnates, Annointed, Titan, Giants, Bastion... all of them can be used. We have a restriction of 1125 in core, so, this 1125 can be used to fill 2 big units... that is the "battleline" you want to field? 1800 in characters and all the other points can be used in Single Models... how can anyone avoid that possibility? and Why can't be done now in the current book? Or do you want to buff a lot infantry over all the others? so... …

  • I don't understand why kadim Manifestation + Divine is causing all this discusion. Who can fear that? characters with aegis? they usually have aegis against flaming too. Daemons? against what... Kadim? Lugars? they will die in the magic phase before they can charge anything... I think is something very situational. If i need to spend my time playing and testing units, this "combo divine" is not in my todo list... call me if you have success destroying this units with aegis. PS. Maybe, maaaaybe a…

  • Quote from berti: “Quote from chronizide: “As for above comparison of Deep Watch and Immortals: Deep watch at least look much better defensively. Both units are basically identical but immortals have str5 and -1 to wound for S5+. Deep watch have parry (not very meaningful) and 5+ shieldwall aegis all the time. Mathematically deep watch are more durable, 5+ reduces damage by about 33% and -1 to wound by 16%... -1 to wound applies to more rolls so is slightly better in that sense. Basically infern…

  • I think ID will find a lot of new "tools" to enjoy in this book. Here i read a lot that the book have a lot of problems, but and the good things? Vizier BsB with Triple Speed is cool for me, combined with Flintlocks or BlunderBluss Rocket Battery is still good and a thread for single models. Vassal Levies are an osom scoring and cheap, i used it a lot of times in big numers with spears and do his job pretty well. The new Kadim Titan is really good, for me better than old one. And i admit that 1s…

  • i understand the point, but again, i will not give up in this info. Is just a beta. Old ID feedback is important but not only on paper, we need on the table too, playing. They will make this book better, helping us to improve it. Give up is not an option for me. Is like no voting on democracy, if you dont vote... you deserve the final gold .

  • Quote from Traumdieb: “I dont think you get the problem. This is not what at least the old ID players want. IDs are slavers in our mind and if servants or slaves die. Who cares? Nobody gives a damn about buffs here. Bound stuff is weaker and the buffs are a compensation for it which means they have to be babysitted now to get those bonusses. Why? Broken stuff is there to die and nothing else. IWs are worse than in the old book since there is NO fan of flames from what the big unit lived. You can…

  • but the focus is on dwarves too. They are good, with good weapons, now in this beta will see if CG are good enough, IW are better than before imho. Immortals were better, now in beta 2 we will see, but they are not bad at all. New taurukhs and annointed are not bad at all, annointed need something to be more a hammer than anvil in my opinion, but with this changes, probably they will be played. And new rule that give others non dwarves BF and reroll are osom. Maybe the army need another army rul…

  • ID are not only a dwarf thing... is a dwarf army with slaves, servants, daemons, guns and fire. New book give us all of this? I think it does.

  • esa duda surgió muchas veces, pero está así en todos los libros. en la parte superior, te ponen el "minimo" - "máximo" de cada unidad. Entonces los Discípulos tienen un mínimo de 15, por eso no pueden ser menos. y la regla litigators, que los hace skirmishers y demás, tiene un límite al maximo.