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  • In the end it is frustating than Cowboys is a thing ID can't have... On top of the many things they can't have, it looks like what we can have is less and less each time. Nevertheless, I'm planing on testing a couple of Comisioner Cowboys atm

  • Quote from Wesser: “Quote from Manxol: “There are plently of reazons to induce frenzy to other armies: - Shouting "I'm stonger than you" to Orcs or Ogres - Wearing the crown of a Dwarf King you killed. - Owning a teseracht with souls the demons want to consume. - Wearing a Sacred banner of the lady as a cape. And so on. ” Show me an Overlord model with a cloak made of brains for baiting zombies and we’ll discuss it ” itight surprise you, but I don't have a diferent overlord for death cheater or …

  • For the same reason a venom blowpioe dart can wound a Steam Tank, an Undead Wolf Champion can Challenge a Doomlord or a sabertoth tiger makes 25 iron orcs turn 90 degrees when charging him

  • There are plently of reazons to induce frenzy to other armies: - Shouting "I'm stonger than you" to Orcs or Ogres - Wearing the crown of a Dwarf King you killed. - Owning a teseracht with souls the demons want to consume. - Wearing a Sacred banner of the lady as a cape. And so on.

  • I hope it wasn't an overreaction than you regret, @WhammeWhamme. I can understand the frustation, nevertheless, but as I said before, I think some spicy special rules are good, overcomplicated ones no. What is good are rules than you can explain to an oponent who doesn't know the book with a simple sentence. I said before Prophet of Ashuruk... my oponent dosn't need to understand all 4 sentences, just something like "I'm Alchemy, but I can cast Pyro atribute instead of Alchemy". For example, if …

  • Quote from DanT: “I would like to re-propose my fun game: How about people each point at one thing in the ID LAB that they think has a good impact-to-complexity ratio? (Where impact is flavour, game impact, evocativeness, game/list depth, etc etc) ” Prophet of Ashurukh.

  • Quote from Villon: “well maybe because was the first time? When you play again he will need again a lot of time to understand how the list works? Mask rule us hard to explain? You can use BF or Aegis in combat... I don't know, maybe i have a biased opinion Do you will be happier if we remove ALL special rules from the book? Immortals off 6, def 6 and BF and thats all. The mask is just a BG item nothing else. Lugars 2att str 4 ap1, mov 4/12 agi 3 Nothing else, no flames nothing. Booring. Sorry...…

  • Indeed... I feel like I have to explain a lot of things to my friends when playing. Lugars deployment rule, blunderbusses, even Immortals are harder to explain than Lamassu (Hey, you chose: I gain chanel 1 or 1 extra spell). Lugar's rule could be +1 to the side choose roll. Old blunderbusses were a bit complicated, but new ones are really complicated (and lose of 18 range hurts a lot, and forces to put acurate on a shotgun, and so on). Instead of fancy changing stance like Udyr, If the mask give…

  • @Tyranno I would say with current range you destroyed gunline. Also, a dart moving towards you, without light troops, isn't avoidance. It is suport fire. Anyway, you won't change my mind and I won't change yours. Trying to be constructive there: The loss of range 18 is really bad for us. At the same time, I understand (even if not agree) at the 27 "range" isue. What about giving to infernal brand the following adition? "A model with infernal brand which moved 6 or less gains march and shoot". Th…

  • @Villon Darts were in the guidelines before, since you put them in the book. But complains changed that, a whim decision. Complains should be able to change that again. Specialy since guidelines and background seem to be the ones that explain each further change made to the book. Ibwould say a dart is 5-7 cavalry and 10-14 infantry.

  • Quote from Herminard: “Quote from Manxol: “@DanT I wanted to put enfasis on the contradictory side of the matter. Line forcing us to play 20 IW for the sake of bigger units and then expecting to pay premium wounds if we use BB's (BB's should be a flat price for unit, no a ppm price, imho) @Herminard the smallest core should be 2 15 man flintlock and 2 20 slaves... That's more battlelinr than 90% armies out there (EoS aside). ” Not my 90% ” Then you are in 10%.But usually armies don't deploy more…

  • @DanT I wanted to put enfasis on the contradictory side of the matter. Line forcing us to play 20 IW for the sake of bigger units and then expecting to pay premium wounds if we use BB's (BB's should be a flat price for unit, no a ppm price, imho) @Herminard the smallest core should be 2 15 man flintlock and 2 20 slaves... That's more battlelinr than 90% armies out there (EoS aside).

  • Battle line might benintended playstile... Now it is forced playstile. Also, I feel very frustrated by that Schrondinger RT we seems to have. Stupid and contradictory demands.

  • Maybe we should do that... Like people in Beta 1 refused to play against ID and that precipitated Beta 2, we should refuse to play Beta 3. And I don't want to disrespect the LAB team, but when I look at book I don't want to make list. You chosen for me what I have to play.

  • Infernal Dwarves LAB FAQ

    Manxol - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    In H spell, the oil skin token disapears after one turn?

  • Quote from Tyranno: “Quote from Manxol: “Something like that could have been achieved with BB's... like BB's being S2 and gaining +1S for each rank... or even if I didn't liked @DanT option, it encouraged big units. Now we are forced to pay premium weapon (msu bb's cost is 80 points) and at the end half of the shoots are like Vassal ones. ” Before I answer anything else, I have an easy one here. We were not allowed to make Blunderbusses have anything to do with extra ranks. ” And I'm pretty sure…

  • Well... personally I feel disapointed at the update. The double nerf mechanic hit our book in Beta 2 in some entries (Inmortals, Bastion), and hit agains now (core shooting). What are you expecting us to play? Could make a list instead of book and all players can play that. Personally I feel than the forced 20 man Infernal Warriors was a cheat. You aren't encouraging players to play MMU instead of playing MSU. You are forcing, like the "press F to respect" meme in Call of Duty. And, indeed... if…

  • Personally, I wouldn't pick shield giant even if it is cheaper than club. I use 2 club giants in my weak side. With S6 they are a thread, and oponen't can't allow them to run free. But with shield and S5 he isn't enought hitter to be a problem for enemies.

  • Quote from strauss: “Quote from Manxol: “Yes, no one picks Immortals or Incarnates. But the dumb are those 21 players, not you. ” Thanks mate - nice of you ” It wasn't aimed at you. A lot of people seems to think internet drives the feelings of the people. Indeed, I feel like we, forum users, are a bast minority. And on top of that, a lot of people talks from gut feeling, not from testing or playing.