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  • ID General Chat

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    small mortar have S7Ap4 in central hit, also Clipped Wings is important factor. Potential 36" range is enough to keep safe distance and if you are lucky you can do serious dmg to Dragons, Single Flyers, Chariots. Small farmer is good tool for flank, where your opponent don't have BSB or General range.

  • Infernal Dwarves LAB FAQ

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Quote from Slayer Zabojcow: “Fluff explanation of this rule is really, really bad. Zombies or dogs getting frenzied because some stuntie nearby is comic ” we are working on it, don't worry

  • Quote from Kratos: “imo I agree with @Herminard A great way to make bodyguard is to tie it into equipment options. The same as we have Ziggurats Regulars, we could have On annointed - Comissioner special ops: Model gets equiped with shield and gains Bodyguard On inmortals - Infernal Guards Model gains Infernal weapon and Bodyguard This will help not only chars, but also the unit in their other roles. ” Sure I can solve some issues, but from BG perspective all Immortals suppose to be Personal Gua…

  • same as they are great Scoring and Musicians

  • Grumbling on new ID book

    Odoamar - - Dwarven Holds (DH)

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    Quote from Boonku: “Quote from WarX: “And I will not say sorry, really. From most armies there is multitude builds that will wipe out my DH army whatever I do. I have to live with that. Why VC can't be screwed from time to time? ” Well if your army is screwed because an opponent brought a full roster of 4.5k pts which counters you it still feels rough but is, I think, acceptable. But we are talking about an inexpensive special rule on a single hero. Of course there is some counterplay to it, but…

  • ID General Chat

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Low chance to remove it but some chance to change rules like streamline it with other "palanquin" modela in Gold LABs. So I think we will consider: Tall, Cannot be stomped. I hope it don't change your imagination about this model.

  • ID General Chat

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Quote from Zhorgrath Grimaxe: “Quote from Ciara: “Quote from Slayer Zabojcow: “So you have noticed removal of quick to fire and march and shoot but didn't noticed improved aim (from 4+ to 3+) and accurate? Typical. ” He only see nerfs. As he said if you remove qtf or march and shoot its nerf, price reduction or better aim or exchange of rules doesnt matter. ; ) ” Price reduction where? Min size of the unit now is 20, u could also have dropped points for one model, but you forced players to play …

  • Quote: “The Commissioner and the Anointed are very dull currently while the infernal engine, bastion and lugars have a bucket of rules each. ” Other armies deserve to more complex Large Beasts/Large Cavalry units, lD cant have everything shiny and unique. Bear in mind Bodyguard tax is included on Commisoner profile, I hope we will see more Anointed units in this iteration. Personally 3man PW unit is decent for their price.

  • Quote: “One thing I don't see the sense of: Battle focus on it. ” why, when whole unit gain BF if this guy is inside. Why the same vassals can get it? Quote: “I warn you, if I find out it is going to be given to the DH, I get mad. ” I think if DH LAB team will want enchant defensive playstyle of their army it fit very well. We scrap it because we prefer defensive banner for more aggressive play than put something and w8.

  • Quote: “I was also very excited for Beta 1 immortals. They really felt immortal. ” Background is different, they are Immortal because they are easy to replace, not because they are hard to kill. I know it is little confusing. Simply they don't need special training, just put Mask from fallen warrior

  • yea good point. - Mask of Ages have error - second one is intended, they are different type of warriors even from same Church

  • ID General Chat

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Quote from Theokrit: “I am a bit puzzled by the bastion. Lets say i want to use it with blunderbusses, so i buy a unit of infernal warriors, give them blunderbusses and place my bastion inside. Now i get in range to shoot someone (maybe with slaves as support so i can march and shoot). So far so good, the bastion allows me to go deep instead of wide, since i can always shoot with 20 Models. Now i want the enemy to charge me, so i can have a second round of shooting with stand and shoot. Since ge…

  • Quote: “In particular, I urge players to consider whether halving (or doubling, or whatever) the prices would change their minds about things... because I see a lot of comments conflating "total game impact" and "points efficiency" of different things. If the wrong message gets to the decision-makers, then the wrong action will be taken. ” amen I would like to see reaction when Bastion gain -50pts

  • ID General Chat

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Quote from Villon: “when i say "compete" i want to say that we, as an ID players have problems to choose between those 2 options. What i want to field? 20 IW with BB? 20 CG with Pistols? both will have similar role, why i want one or the other? i need those AP3 hits more than AP2? i need this Str 5 more than Str 4? is better to have the unit with GW and BB? or is better Spears + Pistols? that's the question, we have this viable options? or is just one auto-include... ” new BB are much more effec…

  • ID General Chat

    Odoamar - - Infernal Dwarves (ID)

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    Thx for your feedback, plz copy it to proper. It will be helpful to use when we collect it. I would like to clarify some things. Quote: ““The Immortals are too good in theory”. “The Disciples of Lugar are too good in theory”. “ID shooting is too good in theory.” “Lets nerf the things people are playing because they must be overpowered.” ” It isn't theory, we have data points and we work on it. Who knows maybe data was wrong? (like data about first Immortals?). This system work like that, if peop…

  • Grumbling on new ID book

    Odoamar - - Dwarven Holds (DH)

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    Quote from Kreln: “I think Imortals having a free spear is illogical.. and the new rule giving them a 6+Ageis instead of BF is just pointless. ID core rules! I just hope DH gets the same treatment ” spears isn't free, they can't take simple hand weapons then the cheapest weapon is included in profile. Just Layout.

  • Quote from Vidi51: “another nerf for ID, in the next patch you can only play vassals ...You can change the name of the army to vassals and so people will not be confused.I have the feeling that you don't know what to do with this book, too many drastic changes just justified by the team of cry. ” don't worry in next update Vassals will gain +5pts/model

  • Quote: “Promote bigger shooting units and stop MSU shooting spam. Do this without allowing 3+ ranks of shooting from blunderbusses. Note that “large unit” is not necessarily the same as “deep unit”. ” copy paste form RT feedback, I hope no-one ban me for that Probably BB price is not effective if you count, only half models can shoot if you are 5wide, bear in mind points are not set in stone.

  • Quote from Eol: “If you can consider remove this rule from Warlock will be welcome. ” Then I believe his Did will go down to 8 like SE Druid.

  • Quote from MountainBuns: ““Dread elves have strong leaders with top-tier commanding presence abilities.” Does the lab team feel this guideline is present in the revealed character entries? A fighty lord with no access to towering presence, a wizard master with not a leader, an assassin with not a leader. Is this top tier commanding presence abilities? ” I think it is not fair to judge without knowledge about whole picture. What do you say if army include BSB/General option like SA Frog? Or model…