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  • Quote from Furion: “The game plays utterly different in top 20-30% of the distribution. The lower on the ladder, the more random the results are. This is not the correct place to get conclusions about balance. Quote from arwaker: “Not sure what we are even arguing about. HE was considered as too strong before, and latest data indicate that they dropped in performance. Do you think this is bad in general or do you just think that they dropped by too much? Well, then it is certainly not HE to comp…

  • Quote from DarkSky: “I think 4-wide to form a rank is a really really cool idea and definitely hope someday it will find a place in an army. The biggest challenge would be to decide: In which army? Somehow I don't think HE is the right one, if HE are supposed to field the biggest elven blocks. But I could be entirely wrong as well and the team says HE should be able to field more ranks with less bodies, which is an argument for them. ” This (and the general FLU concept) runs up against: - Elves …

  • Quote from Marcos24: “Understood. But also don't you think that multiple angles would be more fun as a HBE player as well? If those defensive traits come in different forms, it means you always have at least one thing that an enemy can't bypass (assuming you apply it correctly): 1. Does an enemy unit rely on impact hits? Send in the armored guys that reduce ap or decrease strength then, (or cast one of a couple of spells that would help). 2. An enemy unit that has a magic buff that pushes their …

  • It's interesting getting your viewpoint on this @Marcos24 and I can see what you're trying to avoid, but I think your original statements are probably a bit too broad-stroked. As Vespacian points out, it's not likely to be a completely army-wide implementation (without any caveats) or, importantly, at the exact same stat line. For instance, the Distracting could be limited to some units, or it could be to offset current stateliness (I could imagine a world where all "elite" Elves go to DS4 with …

  • How is this viewpoint any different than armies with S3 Archers/infantry going up against R4-5 // 2-3+ Armorsave models and feeling as if all their core is useless? Or maybe closer to your specific concern, how is this different than charging into models that strike first and wipe out all your knights. Genuinely interested in your viewpoint. At first glance, this seems like a problematic statement: if new designs were based on what each army didn’t want to fight, there would be no design space l…

  • Hi everyone! The DE Lab Team is asking for specific feedback on the rule "Irresistible Will" for the Warlock Outcast. If you have a minute, please fill out the quick 3-question survey found here: Feedback on DE LAB - Irresistible Will Thank you! Kind regards, Axiem

  • Hi everyone! The DE Lab Team is asking for specific feedback on the rule "Irresistible Will" for the Warlock Outcast. For reference, "Irresistible Will" is a Universal Rule for Warlock Outcasts and provided the following bonus: "The Casting Values of spells cast by the model are increased by +1. Dispelling rolls against spells cast by the model suffer a -2 modifier." If you have a minute, please fill out the quick 3-question survey that best categorizes you as a player: For Non DE Playes forms.g…

  • HBE - Who 8 My Wings Lists

    Axiem - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    My top three predictions (in no particular order): Quote: “Andrea Conti – Highborn Elves (conti#5166) 650 - High Prince, General, Light Armour (Destiny's Call), Spear (Sliver of the Blazing Dawn), Master of Canreig Tower (2 additionnal Learned Spells) 580 - Commander, Sky Sloop, Shield (Star Metal Alloy), Battle Standard Bearer (Aether Icon), Dragonforged Armour (Daemon's Bane), Lance, Obsidian Rock, Fleet Officer 300 - Mage, Wizard Adept, Pyromancy, Book of Arcane Mastery 686 - 29 Sea Guard, St…

  • New new tournament lists from Who 8 My Wings team tournament. A lot of variety there -- interested to see which of those lists will come out on top. HBE - Who 8 My Wings Lists Which is your favorite? Any bets on top-performers? Kind regards, Axiem

  • HBE - Who 8 My Wings Lists

    Axiem - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    Gold 2021 Patch Lists Who 8 My Wings, Team Tournament Lachy Creely - lachydotc #1046 Highborn Elves 935 - Mage, Dragon, Wizard Master, Pyromancy, Paired Weapons (Hero's Heart), Order of the Fiery Heart 530 - High Prince, General, Lion Chariot, Dragonforged Armour (Daemon's Bane), Great Weapon, Diadem of Protection, Royal Huntsman 335 - Commander, Elven Horse, Shield (Dusk Forged), Battle Standard Bearer, Heavy Armour (Basalt Infusion), Lance, Potion of Strength 436 - 9 Highborn Lancers, Standard…

  • Quote from Mandavar: “Quote from Axiem: “@calcathin has the right of it. Are some things still too expensive? Probably. But as a whole, the book is significantly more internally and externally balanced that it has been previously. And it is getting closer each time. The way to continue getting closer isn't always all buffs either: raising internal balance at the cost of external balance (if one or two lists are at the top-end of performance) is in line with the project's goals. The list posted s…

  • @calcathin has the right of it. Are some things still too expensive? Probably. But as a whole, the book is significantly more internally and externally balanced that it has been previously. And it is getting closer each time. The way to continue getting closer isn't always all buffs either: raising internal balance at the cost of external balance (if one or two lists are at the top-end of performance) is in line with the project's goals. The list posted showcases this well -- many of those chang…

  • Quote from calcathin: “Quote from Tyrionlannister: “Useless patch... May be in 2023 we will have some reason to not play silverprince and moct. I don't understand how designer's team can seriously think that new kind of list will come with - 20 or + 20 pts... Seriously... T9a is a great game btw. ” I think it can. The most popular character setups were already at 1800 with compromises. A further 40-50pt increase in character set-ups can shake this significantly. FO Elu commander, MOCT Prince, Oo…

  • HE Miniatures & New Models

    Axiem - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    The crew aside, that Bolt Thrower actually looks pretty good. I like the Swordmasters, but I think the Banners on their backs + the poses are going to be nightmare to rank. Kind regards, Axiem

  • Quote from pazda_pl: “Just checked out our book again and it states that QCavalier is 40pts? Is it mistake? Right after patch release it was 25... ” 40 is indeed correct. You’ll notice the points of the mounts were reverted / corrected as part of this. The mounts were not intended to increase (this was a mistake from a half-finished draft that was copied originally). Kind regards, Axiem

  • Quote from calcathin: “Quote from Giladis: “What about FO Griffon and Dragon OotFH Master to open more points for units in the second configuration? ” As a concept it looks cool and a gorgeous sight on table!On its performance, though, it´s really not much change from Dec: cheaper honour but more expensive Griffon, minimal overall cost impact. We´ll see. Most relevant changes IMHO are the new attribute Blaze for Dragon OotFH Pyro and the Silver Spike in CC for Dragon OotFH Alchemy. Both changes …

  • In comparison to the unit of 10 Helms, the cost is a little over 50% more. The impact (both in terms of offensive damage, just from the front rank, let alone the Banner) and the survivability is around there (2 more models, 6+ Ward, Higher DS, and 2++ Fireborn) total is in line with that imo. It's the same configuration that the bus was used in for the 4x Griffon builds before that was nerfed. It's less about point-efficiency and more that it performs the role needed effectively and reliably. Ki…

  • @Masamune88 I was thinking something more like this: 1010 -- Mage, Wizard Master, on Dragon, Order of the Fiery Heart, Pyromancy, Paired Weapons, Hero’s Heart, Magical Heirloom, Obsidian Rock 720 -- High Prince, General, Fleet Officer, on Griffon, Dragonforged Armor, Shield, Lance, Nova Flare, Daemon’s Bane, Diadem of Protection, Glittering Lacquer 852 -- 3x 6 Highborn Lancers, Full Command, Aether Icon 185 -- 5 Elein Reavers, Bows 180 -- 5 Elein Reavers 110 -- Reaver Chariot 745 -- 12 Knights o…

  • Yeah this is what prevented me trying it originally (and too many other things to test). Think a Ryma brick instead would be better? Kind regards, Axiem

  • Quote from Giladis: “What about FO Griffon and Dragon OotFH Master to open more points for units in the second configuration? ” Yes -- exactly. In that case, if I wasn't using the remaining available points for a cheap BSB let's say, I may look at Flame Wardens and Alchemy on the OotFH to limit the impact of Discipline further. FO Griffon Prince OotFH Master, on Dragon, Alchemy 4x 6 Highborn Lancers 20-25 Flame Wardens 2x Sky Sloops Still something like 400-500 points left to play with. Kind reg…