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  • Quote from skipschnit: “I’d like to see why Cuatl’s are “outsiders” now. I don’t like the restriction that they “can’t” be the general, so maybe that can get changed to they “aren’t optimal” generals. I’d like to see them get a role that isn’t just about being a wizard. What are their life spans like? Are they overly aggressive as adolescents? Did they spawn, hatch, or get magically created? Some of these can be done via the rules so that you don’t need the full background to paint a picture. So…

  • Quote from Ghiznuk: “Quote from Rixitotal: “So take a cuatl, remove the leadership aspect, and tada. feels like we will keep a powerful caster (top teir i hope) and it will be cheaper for not filling the leadership role. cool. But how will this interact with temple guard equivalents? seems like they shouldn't have dedicated body guard if they are mistrusted ” They actually should have a bodyguard charged of killing them as soon as they start cackling too much. ” This is an excellent idea and ver…

  • SA LAB Team and guidelines

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    *ACS hat off* I'm super excited about unridden raptor units, a super big dino(why not t5 4+ as /6+ regen 15w ? t6 6w 3+ is boring design space), some commando gila units and ambushing caiman ancient(really fitting for this slow but kick-a$$ monk philosopher showing up to the battle late but in a perfect position). Really hope the cloud msu shooting becomes viable again especially with losing pyro access. Maybe the bound spells/items will give access to the ranged damage or we will finally see an…

  • Quote from marcema: “What i see in many tournaments is that people love to copy paste netlists and assume it will do well. Thisnis a great influence on UB tournaments as people are likely to try new armies and such without having the experience. Therefore UB stats have to be interpreted with a grain of salt imo, which are basically all tournaments since march 2020. ” I'd like to refer you to the uk masters where the winning list was 100% a copy paste netlist netlists only work if the player play…

  • Quote from Traumdieb: “@Rixitotal problem is only that most armies stay on top even if they are nerfed except maybe UD. Within the last years esspecially armies like SA and DH went down even if scoring bad. I played about 15 pts on average with SA last year but I dont think they are competitive currently to win a single tourney. Also I know no victory on any tourney with SA and DH since 2019. ” I mean I won two with SA last year and nabbed 3rd at the UK masters all with SA so I guess you do now?…

  • Quote from Rixitotal: “Any news on this front? ” We submitted raptor spirit, baby carnosaur and skink braves for consideration last night and I believe RT are reviewing over the weekend. We did ask about moving Ramphodons to special and got told it wasnt going to happen.

  • Quote from MountainBuns: “@'Darken’ You are right, but so is ipower. Ipower places them 4 wide so he only had 16 attacks hit back instead of 19 after casualties. This gave him just under 4. But I would’ve gone with 3 wide because thats how I field mine anyways. It comes out to 4.6 unsaved wounds that way which I assume is the way you did your math? One of the bonuses of the tauro is its ability to clip fights compared to multi model units, it’s maneuverability on the field compared to large foot…

  • Quote from Darken: “8 caimen with full command is 20 points more... I get they don't have any ranged attacks and they don't have the special rules that the engine tauro has but they have 24 attacks that re-roll ones and they have 24 wounds... It's hard to argue that the engine taurosaur is going to be as impactful as such a strong unit. ” Hate to burst your bubble but you do realize that a charging taurosaur pops your unit in a round? 4w from impact, .5 from skinks and 2w from taurosaur leaves 4…

  • Quote from Darken: “575 for a taurosaur with engine of the gods... It s too expensive. It's such a cool thing to have that I think people still want it but it's way way too expensive. If the ward save always worked even in close combat maybe it's worth that much. But against only shooting... It's almost certainly not. ” And yet it is a staple of competitive SA lists, maybe the 20pts change killed it but I really doubt it.

  • Quote from Khadath: “I am especially thinking of adding fear to Caiman, more weapon choices for Skink Braves and Saurian Warriors, Towering Presence on Cualt Lord, Totem animal for Temple Guard. Other players are asking for a lot of interesting modification, but I understand that it would be a problem to rebalance the points of the book. Besides, do you have any information as to why the Skink braves and Saurian Warriors have so few weapon choices? ” erm, not quite sure you understand what you a…

  • From a competitive point of view I think some cloud heavy builds didn't change, stegs probably go to 2*5 raptors per steg. Scoring has taken a massive boost. Pyro changes I'm cautious on, the agi spell is an easy stop if it matters but maybe dual Cuatl is a thing?

  • Quote from arwaker: “Minimim core has two important objectives: 1) Make armies realistic for background Without the minimum core, there are armies possible composed of only elite troops, which contradicts the intended lore of the armies. Generals (or warlords, kings etc) normally use the maximum of their availible troops to maximize their chances of winning. And core troops are those which are always around. It would not make sense to not field them. 2) Make armies less rsp Without minimum core,…

  • Quote from Herminard: “Quote from marcema: “Maybe a project playtester can get into when they have time to fix the external balance of core. ” Start by fixing the internal If you could take 450 points of core - would you still bring 900? ” Nope, if i could drop core entirely i would. JG shoots better than jav skinks and caiman darts score better than skink darts and saurus blocks are not combat units under current pricing at the top level unless you have a shiny metal rear end. 450points of saur…

  • Quote from bolard: “Quote from Just_Flo: “Please enlighten us on the following points: - Big units/small units/both? - Weapon options - Other options - Very prominent combo with other unit/character (e.g. buff wagon) - Very prominent combo with special item or banner enchantment - Spam (many of the same entry in the same list) What configurations of above brings the entries on the top 5 overpowered = most price efficient or top 5 up = least price efficient list? ” 1) saurian warriors wise, we se…

  • Quote from Dancaarkiiel: “Quote from sonny1086: “I hoped this "guideline" isnt valid anymore aswell Are there existing guidelines and why arent they puplic?? ” mkkDdVs.png The only thing I could find that seemed up to date. ” Going over these, -Armour seems to be fairly well represented in some places(monsters, skinks,temple guard) but lacking in others(heavy armour limitations, raptor riders, saurus and caimans) -LD bubble, warlord and cuatl should have 9 straight up if this is a strength and a…

  • Quote from Traumdieb: “@WhammeWhamme Why do Characters on Foot suck at SA? I beg the differ after a year of being nearly unbeaten with SA (only one loss 9:11 which was made by a huge mistake by me) Veteran, Spear, Shield breaker, heavy amour, shield, willow ward, agi potion, lucky charm, 2x aether icon, BSB is one of the most versatile BSBs of all. Same goes for the heavy amour, shield, willow ward, agi potion, lucky charm, glory of dawn warlord. He is one of the few characters on foot that make…

  • Quote from Shinymetallass: “Quote from Ipower: “Interesting question regarding LD, should ld9 cold-blooded be available? Reason I bring this up is that after having two games in a row where my Cuatl and bunker decided screw this noise and panicked off on CB 8 with a reroll, I checked and ld8 CB is actually worse than straight LD 10 with or without a reroll. It's about 10% fail without a reroll and 1% with. Is LD9 CB too much for just the general? ” think +1 ld should be a coatl discipline. Now w…

  • new ideas for SA rules LAB

    Ipower - - Saurian Ancients (SA)

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    Interesting question regarding LD, should ld9 cold-blooded be available? Reason I bring this up is that after having two games in a row where my Cuatl and bunker decided screw this noise and panicked off on CB 8 with a reroll, I checked and ld8 CB is actually worse than straight LD 10 with or without a reroll. It's about 10% fail without a reroll and 1% with. Is LD9 CB too much for just the general?

  • Quote from Lawot: “Ok...basically, we’re just in spitballing mode now, and will have a system for gathering ideas when the LAB is announced. Is that correct? ” Essentially correct. Even if none of the ideas end up exactly in the LAB threads like this give us as ACS an idea of what the community expects and would like to see and we can in turn pass that on to the LAB design team when that comes around.

  • Just some friendly advice when designing/proposing units, do your design and then try to break it. Eg. Scorpion warrior skinks, even at 20ppm, units of 10 of them would be an auto pick and 4 units would be a nightmare for most armies to play against(40 s4 ap1 flaming, hitting on 3s combined with 4 units that vanguard and feigned flight). If you think a list that maxed out on your new unit crushes a standard orc/empire list or just gives them little to no chance to actually play then it might be …