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  • I think in the next iteration of the book it would be good to have characters or special models actually return the "eliteness" to units when their near or in the unit. Customization would be key here.

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    Quote from arwaker: “The idea is interesting, and it would certainly look cool on the table. But I think it would not work out properly. I think having those two units separately deployed will often just be more effective I think. ” depends on their role. Bunker, sure separate is better. But if they move up behind the monsters, it might not be the case as they still have LR and RE and so can get those extra wounds in first round.

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    With a clause that you can always shoot the monster instead of spreading the hits from small arms fire, should be fun. Or add a rule that makes the monster take all the hits as the handlers herd it in a way to protect themselves.

  • If I read the Dreadmill correctly, it gains an extra d6 charge RANGE not an extra d6 movement distance? So it charged 5"+3d6 because of swiftstride. Would normally be max charge range 17 but now its 17+1d6?

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    Quote from AlWeeks: “Damn, care to share the lists and what your plan was to take on the enemy and Ruthlessly destroy them in the most efficient way. (Before they basically did it themselves) ” This is my current itteration: Dread Elves 715 - Beastmaster, General, Dragon, Halberd (Pride of Gar Daecos), Obsidian Rock 515 - Legion Legate, Manticore (Extraordinary Specimen), Battle Standard Bearer, Shield, Death Cheater, Lance 380 - Warlock Outcast, Cosmology 476 - 29 Dread Legionaries, Standard Be…

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    Quote from AlWeeks: “Quote from umbranar: “I'm not even sure how much ranged protection we would need. Tonight I'm going to play a list on Warhall that should be able to screen my infantry with some monsters or Thunder Herds. I feel like its a decent way to play but does prevent your soldiers from being in the front line AND have ranged protections. But who cares? The Thunder Herds can attempt to do as much damage as possible, maybe stick, before the infantry comes in to mob up. Other than strai…

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    I'm not even sure how much ranged protection we would need. Tonight I'm going to play a list on Warhall that should be able to screen my infantry with some monsters or Thunder Herds. I feel like its a decent way to play but does prevent your soldiers from being in the front line AND have ranged protections. But who cares? The Thunder Herds can attempt to do as much damage as possible, maybe stick, before the infantry comes in to mob up. Other than straight up protection, combining troops like th…

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    Quote from umbranar: “We're kind of talking circles here. Many great suggestions have been given: "Buff or change suggestions" - Deab Armour for extra ranged AS; - Academy trained "formations" for extra AS, maybe even reducing speed slightly or force certain unit formations; - Mist leviathan soft cover, -1 to shoot, being a ranged magnet, some suggestions like soft cover to be first turn only or when the leviathan doesn't move give X inch aura cover; - More special deployments for at least some …

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    We're kind of talking circles here. Many great suggestions have been given: - Deab Armour for extra ranged AS; - Academy trained "formations" for extra AS, maybe even reducing speed slightly or force certain unit formations; - Mist leviathan soft cover, -1 to shoot, being a ranged magnet, some suggestions like soft cover to be first turn only or when the leviathan doesn't move give X inch aura cover; - More special deployments for at least some units; - Magic items - Gain some ranged protection …

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    Quote from setrius: “Quote from umbranar: “Change I would like to see and discussed locally in exchange for ranged protection: Ruthless Efficiency: Model parts with this rule can choose to lose Lightning Reflexes to gain +1 to wound in combat. Artistry of Death: Model parts with this rule gain +1 to wound in combat. Whether that needs to be nerfed to first round of combat or not might be another discussion, I like it either way. ” Maybe my math fails but it's the same have permanent lighting ref…

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    Quote from DarkSky: “On @Willzilla 's post: I do understand your frustration with the guidelines and I think many players share that. We do have communicated that quite a lot and I think everybody involved understands this. On the other hand you are looking at the process from a particularly dire point of view, which I think would lead to your current frustration in any case. What I mean by this: The team has implemented quite a lof of your feedback into the book while trying to keep it balanced…

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    In my personal opinion and experience, the book is in a great shape for an Alpha book. Sure some points might need to tweaked (Hydra imo), and some rules could use a fresh update or change (again imo, the Mist Liviathan) but overal the book is flexible, well designed and feels like an army (especially the academy part) where the parts feel like a whole, like one race working towards a goal. I'll have to check the WTC's results to make a proper judgement about the overall power level of the book(…

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    Hmm that inspires me to a list. Got plenty of chariot and DK models to make a decent, fast movers list.

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    Theres always beastbreakers. Dev charge (Hatred) is nothing to sneeze at.

  • @jirga or @Krokz might be able to answer that for you, so I'm summoning them for you

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    Quote from Memnite: “I think the WDG tears come form DE +ToWound and high Agi killed their most "meta" build at the moment. Its not like the army as a whole cant deal with it, its more like the current popular net-list of monster spam is hard countered. I'm pretty sure heavy armour foot WDG would mow down things like Temple Miltants with no(or almost no) AP, or our specials on AP(2) will still allow opponent a 4+ good save. ” The DE rules give the spiked shields more bang for their buck. Otherwi…

  • Quote from Nasion "Demon": “So favored champion upgrade allow our units to have dis 9, chosen or standart. But chariots does not have that option and has dis 8. Is that intentional or overlooked "detail"? ” I'm not sure if its an oversight or not but since its fearless terror or other troops fleeing or getting killed also don't matter. So the only thing our chariots really make discipline checks for are break tests and redirects since they don't march anyway. Is a dis 8 so bad? Probably not. Als…

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    Quote from Minidudul: “Hi guys, I want to play the part surligned in the guideline : Quote from DE Guideline: “B.5 Magic DE focus on a strong offensive casting - both ranged damage as well as CC support. DE spells have high in-game impact and they have above average capabilities to get the spells they want through enemy magic defense. ” How would you do this now ? ” I might be the only crazy guy doing it, but my WTC list has both an evo and cosmo Outcast. But even with 1 Outcast both Evo and Cos…

  • Shabti Character Big Centerpiece monster (Statue of some sorts on a 100x150 base)

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    Quote from Minidudul: “But we already have that : Auxiliaries using suppressive fire for Academy unit on charge. It's not enough ? ” took me a while to realise that suppressive fire works on Stand and Shoot.