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  • Quote from da_griech: “I am not sure the -2 to dispell applies for bound spells: Core Rule Book: "Dispelling a Bound Spell works exactly like dispelling a Learned Spell. If 2 Magic Dice were removed the casting roll is equal to the Bound Spell’s primary Power Level. If 3 Magic Dice were removed the casting roll is equal to the Bound Spell’s secondary Power Level" DE Rule Book: "The Casting Values of spells cast by the model are increased by +1. Dispelling rolls against spells cast by the model s…

  • Draft a complete spell proposal based on what you just stated. Please and thank you

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Nemeroth: “Quote from msu117: “Throwing this question out. Would the Rome burn if the altar was merely a buff wagon stand alone unit with 1 maybe 2 option paths but removal of warplatform? Potential then for zero death star issue with an altar build. Something to chew on and consider. Thoughts? @DarkSky ” Is that in addition to the Effigy of Dread? I must say a straight up buff/hex wagon Crucible of slaughter might be perceived as a bit less problematic than the current rules. ” So my…

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    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Throwing this question out. Would Rome burn if the altar was merely a buff wagon stand alone unit with 1 maybe 2 option paths but removal of warplatform? Potential then for zero death star issue with an altar build. Something to chew on and consider. Thoughts? @DarkSky

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Midhigh: “does anybody know if gorgons are 150p or 155p. Book says 150, but changelog says 155 ” 150. A few errors are being spot I'd expect a hotfix soon after allowing time to spot more errors

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Minidudul: “One thing about the "fast" part of design : Fast will always be in comparison. Elves, in this game and previous warhammer edition, were quite fast in general (not just DE), especially V6 when I started. But the whole game also changed, including more cavalry, fast infantry (able to fight in CC), more large unit (with adv 5"+, now it's more 6"+), large cavalry (adv 7"+), and a lot of monsters (adv 6"+ + swiftstride). While elves did not evolve a lot in this direction (but t…

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Mojzesz: “Are there any time frames of the next patch? Or at least how advanced are the works? First patch was roughly 2 months after the initial release, but involved christmas and new years brake. Could we get any hint regarding that? ” If it was soley up to me it would land March 25th. Now there are many cogs in the system so that might be unrealistic. The following Thursday release day is April 1. That is rather unfortunate day to release something, yes? Rest assured a hotfix if c…

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Honestly I personally can not. This particular unit was one that had several ideas and iterations to the point of it might have simply come down to an amalgamation of many and it landed here. The basic premise however was to provide imagery of tamer / beastmaster controlling a pack of vicious beasts. At one point we tried a literal Release the Hounds type rule that let the unit separate into controllers and a frezied beast charge. Issues arose with victory point scoring can all the beast die whi…

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Good thought but while internally the team tried to allow 3 ranks of shooting ultimately it was vetoed. The premise was short range requires unit to be on the front lines and likely to take a charge. In order to take a charge the unit likely needed ranks. Ranks, front line, short range>>>> incentivize with shooting from 3x ranks. Now from a top down PoV the game has other armies that fill a niche of range elements. This army is clearly CC focused. Other armies might be more deserving of 3x rank …

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    sharknado rule coming right up.

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Reading your post i sense nostalgia about evil Dark Elves which sailed it last voyage already.

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Cam: “If you want to be adherent on the guidelines the temple legate should also be a hybrid and not on a single path ” Cam hybrid doesn't necessarily equate to multiple magic paths. Elf wizards are usually 1 attack and fairly weak. The path we took was combat caster. Model has 3 attacks and other options to not be a pure caster or wizard. Quote from Cam: “Also because of the bloat of firing in the legion legate making the Prince offer little outside killing. [/color] ” This line need…

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Exalted Champion: “Quote from msu117: “Quote from Exalted Champion: “Giving DE access to a caster that forces the opponent to a - 3 dispel roll while he is also the general and is even supported by another caster, which is also the BSB, what other characters do you still need competitive wise? ” Quote from Kriegschmidt: “Secondly: how do you get to -3 on Dispel rolls? ” I 2nd Kriegschmidt statement here. Let's cast Boosted Raven's Wing. {9+} Warlock Outcast: Irresistible Will: Univers…

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Exalted Champion: “Giving DE access to a caster that forces the opponent to a - 3 dispel roll while he is also the general and is even supported by another caster, which is also the BSB, what other characters do you still need competitive wise? ” Quote from Kriegschmidt: “Secondly: how do you get to -3 on Dispel rolls? ” I 2nd Kriegschmidt statement here. Let's cast Boosted Raven's Wing. {9+} Warlock Outcast: Irresistible Will: Universal Rule. The Casting Values of all spells cast by …

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    8d190fae0e6ffead52b63fe80c4dcb00.jpg ????

  • the answer lies in an amalgamation of all of the above. With rather short range limits the unit needs to be combat viable and a shift of mentality is required. DE ranged units must be close to the front line not peppering from afar. Through various iterations of academy rules, pricing revisions, looking at mmu/msu, "core tax" and much more,, things settled as you see.

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    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    unfortunately psychology based effects at best have a chance to work half the time when half of the units out there are fearless in one form or another and don't care. Psychology rules need to be look at when any 3.0 reboot is begun.

  • DE LAB - O&G feedback

    msu117 - - Orcs and Goblins (O&G)

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    Temple Legate is being looked at. Not sure where things will end up yet. But I will say definitively. Temple Legate was not nerfed due to any notion that is was being taken to much or auto include. It was purely priced to low from the start. It was corrected. It could still go up in price, it could receive small changes, or even whole redraft but the first 30 point increase was simply bringing it in line with a more appropriate starting cost.

  • HE Miniatures & New Models

    msu117 - - Highborn Elves (HE)

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    Your best elf yet @Marcos24

  • DE General Discussion

    msu117 - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Klaudel: “Quote from Klaudel: “I’ve got a few questions: - was the removal of +1 adv on charge for mounted Legion Legates intended? - is the current version of corsairs the final one or are there some works taking place re this unit? - the same as above re Mist Leviathan: should we expect significant changes to the design of this unit? - what’s happening with the Colossal Kraken design? ” @DarkSky @KiRaHyuU @GSbasic Could you guys help answering those questions? Thanks in advance. ” A…