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  • @Adam Of course you could remove the "tax" and include the point costs for more expensive characters. That would be an easy fix, as the upgrade would be a special rule and expensive characters can always have, cheap characters might need to buy it as upgrade and too cheap characters might not be able to buy it at all. I don't know currently, whether you genuinely didn't read/understand my posts, whether it's a language problem or whether you are trying to troll me. Quote from Adam: “So you do no…

  • Quote from Adam: “So do you have any data supporting your statement that character spam is a problem? ” You didn't seem to understand the main sentiment of my original post. The problem is not characer spam per se. The problem is that there is no way to "correctly" price an on foot character, because the "normal capabilities" would be only worth X points, but the fact alone, that the character is able to chaff, needs the character to be priced at least X+Y points. Making mounts too cheap and bas…

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    On @Willzilla 's post: I do understand your frustration with the guidelines and I think many players share that. We do have communicated that quite a lot and I think everybody involved understands this. On the other hand you are looking at the process from a particularly dire point of view, which I think would lead to your current frustration in any case. What I mean by this: The team has implemented quite a lof of your feedback into the book while trying to keep it balanced and fun to play with…

  • Quote from Borneo: “Did this happen to anyone else? ” Happens from time to time, when Appspot (the infrastructure to deliver the army files) is down. Just wait a few hours and retry. Never delete your files before updating.

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    @Memnite Absolutely no problem, that is what we are here for. Q: Is Battle Reporting non-tournament games impactful towards team decisions? A: Yes, it is. While the casual games have a certain lesser "weight" than tournament data (just like high profile tournaments have more weight than say a regional 8-man tournament), they are still taken into account. How can you make your Battle Reports most impactful? 1. Make them easy to consume by the team: Follow the laid out template. Use Unit names as …

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    WDG also specifically has Monster Mash and low count armies in their guidelines if I remember correctly. DE is also able to play monster heavy lists, but as much as others (I think SA and BH are on top of those lists). Do you think the 30% for DE is a specifically problematic cap? Is there a specific config you think should be playable, but is forbidden by the cap? Generally I think the WDG 35% cap is something to be tackled in their part of the forum and balancing. If it really is too high, we …

  • Quote from AlWeeks: “ut he just kept moving back 6 inches or so ” Just to make sure: He could only do this with his blowpipes, not the javelin Skinks, right?

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    Those Crab Warriors… got me thinking. Should the SA LAB extend the Saurian races into the crustacean?

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    @arwaker I don't oppose the idea. I just say there will be tons of contention about any categorisation you do. Let's say you put 5 armies into group A. The results are a big win, three close games and a big loss. Anybody might now come to you and argue for the big win or loss to be delegated to group B because of 'this is not a shooty enough list, there are ones in group B less sjooty'. One part of people will claim you skew the data towards one direction, another part of people will claim you s…

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    Quote from Babnik Kalenina: “Fluff wise, I read some days ago in this thread that warlock were killed by the senate and survivors fled to become outcast... Right? ” I think you misunderstood the flavour texts in this regard. Warlocks fled the Highborn Elves and are now tolerated, but not part of Daeb society. Quote from arwaker: “We could sum up the average result of all games played against shooting lists and compare them to the average results played against non-shooting lists. ” We had in thi…

  • Quote from BondageGoatZombie: “If I may criticize one thing, it's the diary entries (the ones labeled 1 to 5). They feel fabricated. They are too descriptive. I guess this is because you wrote it with the intention of providing info to us readers, but it does not feel authentic. To give a couple examples: - Would a Dread Elf meeting another Dread Elf, really write down that they greeted each other with the default greeting and even explain how it works? Would you write that you shook hands with …

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    Quote from Glonojad: “base with GW-like angles ” Well, that wasn't part of your initial description what you want, so naturally I couldn't account for it. Personally I dislike the angles very much and like the straight 90° cuts much better, because the bases of the miniatures actually form a gapless surface, but this is a matter of taste of course. I would also love a Gorgon model that looks somewhat like these: scryfall.com/card/tsr/117/gorgon-recluse scryfall.com/card/rav/231/sisters-of-stone-…

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    Quote from Glonojad: “Guys, where could I get a base for a Leviathan? ” Buy some fruits or vegetables (currently I'd suggest strawberries) which are sold in a wooden tray/box. Use a hobby saw and cut out the size you want: voila, wooden base and something nice and healthy to eat. Win/win situation

  • My feedback purely on errors, typos, etc: - Beta 4? Document says Beta 3 - Kadim Titan has Searing Heat removed from Attack Attributes on Offensive profile. But rules still mention it. What is the desired rule? - Overview table. Blunderbuss still mentions the "half the hits" rule

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    Quote from rolan: “get to have the great honor of carrying the banner ” Sure, "great honour". Sounds more like being singled out as the idiot who has to carry it

  • Quote from theunwantedbeing: “This in itself is negligible since we aren't making much use of the full spread of base stats in the game normally. ” And why do you think that is? IMO the D6, because every "step" creates a full 1/6 higher or lower probability and spreading the values too far is impossible unless you make soft stats (Off/Def) where differences up to 3 may have zero effect. Or you have "hard stats" like Str/Res and therefore need to keep them close together (every unit type basicall…

  • Quote from Ondjage: “6’es are fast to roll, easy to add up and easily avaliable for cheap. ” As are D8, D10, D12, D20… or do you want to tell me you can roll 20 D6 "faster"? Quote from Ondjage: “Usually the number of die you roll are enough to even out the worst spikes ” That's just plain wrong. Look at every Cannon or Bolt Thrower. Look at every panic test. You already mentioned Aegis throws on top of that. Quote from Ondjage: “Leadership rolls already have a mechanic to make it more varied tha…

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    Quote from Memnite: “We are the monster elves right? ” Well, we are the Beast Master Elves. There is a small, but important difference between Dragons and the other menagerie monsters. Dragons cooperating, other menagiere monsters are dominated. So, yes, DE are masters of dominate and tame monsters, but they aren't (necessarily) better at cooperating with Dragons than other Elves (except for the Meeting of the Minds rule). Additionally the Highborn seem to have the "Flying Circus" playstyle asso…

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    DarkSky's Daily Dose of Dread 1. I cleaned up this thread and moved all "unit by unit comparison" posts into the other newly created thread. Please post those unit by unit comparisons there. They are as of now offtopic in this thread, unless they target a specific property of DE or are used to discuss avenues for design, balancing and other things relevant. 2. @Phaeoron Your idea will never pan out with the current background and the guidelines. DE will not under any circumstances bring their sl…

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