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  • @Marcos24 I agree that counterplay should be available and there is: 1. You can charge with units, which aren't depending on first turn damage, but deal consistent damage. 2. You can engage said unit with something different, and then engage with your damage dealer a turn later, when distracting has worn off 3. You can buff your to hit with several spells, there is even a bound spell in BRB which does just that (so your argument of spells cuts both ways) 4. You can employ units with impact hits …

  • I think 4-wide to form a rank is a really really cool idea and definitely hope someday it will find a place in an army. The biggest challenge would be to decide: In which army? Somehow I don't think HE is the right one, if HE are supposed to field the biggest elven blocks. But I could be entirely wrong as well and the team says HE should be able to field more ranks with less bodies, which is an argument for them.

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Memnite: “I asked before but sorry i didnt see an anwser, is the next iteration dropping sometime soon? Me & another guy are getting ready for conversions/buying models for Thunder Pack so would like to know are they going to change base size/model count or something within the next few weeks. ” I can't disclose any release dates. You can look however to the general frequency of updates and look at the time between Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 to estimate when Alpha 3 or Beta 1 would be droppi…

  • Generally I don't get the overexaggeration on hitting on 5+. Why is hitting on 5+ so unfun that is destroys games, but wounding on 5+ or even 6+ is just a shrug, while at the same time almost every army has multiple ways of bypassing tohit rolls: Almost any magic missile (to hit? no. To wound? Yes.), Impact Hits (To hit? no. To wound? Yes.), Stomps (To hit? no. To wound? Yes.), Grind Attacks (To hit? no. To wound? Yes.). Compare that to the scarcity of auto-wound mechanics. Given this frame of r…

  • What is the name of this unit?

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    Quote from Girien: “So why you give that poll option ” Maybe read the poll first. It isn't "what should the name be", but "what is the name". It's sort of a quiz to see whether people would know that the current name is Shadow Riders because the unit has been renamed quite a bit. Additionally the difference between Riders and Raiders is only one letter, so it is easy to miss and a lot of people are misspelling it (talking of misspelling: Canon and Cannon are two different things. Additionally th…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from berti: “Wheel turns is a way more important spell in my opinion. Having a tool to counter high strength oponents from smashing the squishy elfes to pieces is way more helpful. ” Hey Berti, I think you are playing it wrong. Protecting the RnF from characters is only possible with the amplified version, which you cannot cast from a bound spell. Overall I would love to have double Twisted Effigy, but Wheel Turns is also quite potent. On the other hand we do have Bewitching Glare in Witch…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Ehakir: “Quote from DarkSky: “The discussion about the setup of RT, ExB, LAB process and TT is utterly pointless here. If you want to discuss this, discuss it elsewhere. I am declaring this as offtopic here, and it will delete further posts on this topic. ” Sure, though it is as pointless as asking people for comments when any proposal is easily dismissed. DP discussion: smacked down WO discussion: smacked down TL discussion: smacked down Mist Leviathan: well let's not even go there. …

  • DE General Discussion

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    The discussion about the setup of RT, ExB, LAB process and TT is utterly pointless here. If you want to discuss this, discuss it elsewhere. I am declaring this as offtopic here, and it will delete further posts on this topic.

  • I think HE will certainly move into the "largest unit sizes" for Elfs category. DE were targeted at MMU first, with MSU second and reduced unit sizes overall. SE will probably target MSU more and MMU second, leaving HE to field those 50 men Spearelf formations. The thing I hope most for is a complete rework of the wonky Honours system with a thousand options for mounts at different prices and conditional army changes. I think the new system has to be a lot less complicated, while offering meanin…

  • Quote from Memnite: “Quote from DarkSky: “Quote from Giladis: “We are currently getting rather polarised feedback on the spell ” I am curious. What is the polarisation? Unless I missed a lot of feedback here in the DE forum most players who actually played with it and used it stopped selecting the spell alltogether after some time, because they never got it to work.Is there a group of players absolutely smashing their opponents with it somewhere else? ” I will confess i work from home, as as a b…

  • Quote from Giladis: “We are currently getting rather polarised feedback on the spell ” I am curious. What is the polarisation? Unless I missed a lot of feedback here in the DE forum most players who actually played with it and used it stopped selecting the spell alltogether after some time, because they never got it to work. Is there a group of players absolutely smashing their opponents with it somewhere else?

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from AlWeeks: “If the team has some novel ideas that could solve the severe weakness to gunline that aren't increased special deployment or limite ranged protection then please share them with us. ” I am certainly here to help you all, but I do not think I can present something really novel. However, I can help you with a few pointers expanding on what @echoCTRL already said about some no-go areas and some "grey-ish" areas, as well as some "open ground". So the no-go areas you should be aw…

  • DE General Discussion

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    @athalow I think this is a good discussion and I would love for the community to give some ideas and insights. So when we talk about "trading" more defense for offense, what would you "give" in order to "get"?

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    Quote from LeXincerta: “So I'm not alone in thinking that some common Items should be scrapped? ” Certainly not. In my opinion Banner of Speed and Relentless Company shouldn't exist, as those fix weaknesses in movement speed far too easily. A case for Rending Banner can certainly be made as well. Additionally I think Hero's Heart is just too universally good and leaves little room for enchantments in the army books that can challenge it. Quote from athalow: “but I think it's more or less, in ter…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from arwaker: “increasing their price, reducing their body count, further reducing their passive defensive. ” You really think this is the general trend? Just comparing RnF infantry old slim and Alpha 2: - Legionnaires got Academy Training and Ruthless Efficiency for Killer Instint: 170/12 → 200/14. - Auxiliaries calculating from 15 with shields: 250/15 → 230/13 - Blades of Nabh/Temple Militants: 275/17 → 265/16 - Tower/Obsidian Guard: 190/23 → 220/20 (even at 20 models) - Judicators: 210/…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Honeym: “Is it perhaps too much to have a boltthrower being able to move and shoot? ” It already can do that!? Range 36" would be absolutely bonkers and against all goals of reducing range of DE so they need to close in. The book generally awards you benefits if you get close and dirty, not staying at max range and poking the enemy from afar (we leave those cowardly tactics to the Sylvan Elves). Also it is was easier to communicate if you use the proper unit names so people actually k…

  • Hi Lubart, I see you are "out of stock" for all plastic models and the shop only sells STL files at the moment. Will you return to sell physical models or partner up with something like TIPS in the future? I myself do not have a 3d printer, but I like your sculpts. So I am toying with the idea of buying quite an amount of Dread Elves.

  • Quote from Boomvalk: “I totally dig the lava spear and the "stormtrooper metal" is super clean if not entirely my style for the daeb ” Hi @Boomvalk glad to have you back on the forum and thank you for the kind feedback. Hmm, I never thought about storm trooper, maybe I am not that much into Star Wars I was also very pleased with the result of the lava spear. I followed a tutorial and could really replicate the results, see the tiny flaws and proceed to improve. I could probably have spend additi…

  • I recognize that our light cavarly has had a lot of renaming going on over the earliest 0.X to v1 to v2 and now with the new LAB. Some of those renaming efforts were very little so confusion is natural. However, with the LAB hitting the name will be final once it is Gold. So just learn Shadow Riders and you are good to go. You might be stuck in the past like Girien, but then again: Why do you even bother with names, if you will call everything by different names anyway? Just imagine Girien being…

  • Models for the Dread Elves

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    Quote from Lubart: “Legion Auxiliaries. More DE miniatures HERE OneVJC0_zOs.jpgroeK2A7QRog.jpgE9C2fo1JsvQ.jpgR2aIK5JDvCc.jpg ” Very cool, but those are Legionnaires not Auxiliaries, right?