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  • DE General Discussion

    umbranar - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Ill be unpacking my 2x outcast (1 evo, 1 cosmo) with effigy setup for this

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Khadath: “How's it going for panics? Does the unit flee from the caster or the unit that received the spell? ” Target of the spell is the Caster so the caster is the source.

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Babnik Kalenina: “Actually I like the concept although it looks still unclear to me If in shooting phase, Two opponent units cause wounds to DE unit, the two units get up to 2D3+2 hits each? ” Units shoot one by one so once you take wounds from unit X you have to decide do I want to hit that unit with 1d3+1 or 2d3+2 hits, paying VT respectively. If unit Y shoots the same applies again, do you want to spend your tokens? If you started with 4 VT and have 2 left, sure you can do the 2d3+…

  • Quote from Kyrys: “Well, you can ofc prepare against a single opponent. But in the balanced list, there is from little to no place for catapults, as they are inefficient against other armies. ” Disagree, the fear shot combined with Whispers of the Veil has often turned away dis 9 or even dis 10 away. dis 7 or dis 8 with reroll fail often enough and the mw shot has it uses as well

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Eldan: “Most of the DE we see seem to be nobles. I wouldn't think every Daeb family has a Dojo at home, but the nobility would absolutely train their children from an early age. And I'd assume that if the father of a middle-class family is a retired soldier, he'd teach his children a bit, too. ” Could be part of a daily routine to just do a bit of swords/knife play or atleast go through the movements and motions with or without practice weapons.

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from DarkSky: “Quote from setrius: “Is it too much to add the Academy Training rule in Raptor Chariots? ” Short: Yes. Too much.Long: You didn't even mention why you think the Raptor Chariots need a buff. The TT doesn't hand out special rules like candy. More important though: Academy Training is specifically reserved for troops that went through the Academy. Raptor Chariots are ridden by nobility. The nobility doesn't go through classic Academy Training, but is "home schooled". So they can…

  • DE General Discussion

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    I can understand @SmithF question can raise eyebrows, but I also think its a valid question since playing games has often revealed hidden gems. One example is from quite a while ago when seeker vanguard lists were unexplored by DH and "forum wisdom" dictated it was bad. Until games were played, combiniations figured and and the seeker vanguard lists got extensively played and after a while it look like a seriusly valid and dangerous list. As for my expecience, about 8 or 9 games with the current…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from berti: “These claims that Judicators don´t work....aren´t they a bit too much? ” They work alright, they are just on their own island in the army and OG seem to be better all-round, even against judicator targets if you add the rending banner.

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Kriegschmidt: “Quote from umbranar: “Thats where a banner, Mist leviathan or Witchcraft come in? ” I've already talked yesterday about how the Pennon compounds Judicators' problem by making them even more 'all the eggs in one basket', so that leaves only the Banner of Speed. If a unit needs a Generic Magic Item in order just to work, the unit needs redesigning. The banner should be a bonus/boost If a unit needs a specific spell path choice or another unit in order just to work, it nee…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from Kriegschmidt: “Quote from umbranar: “I must say, deadly riposte for Judicators sounds like a nice rule for them to show their supreme fighting skills and I think it fits them. ” Nah, I don't think they need any help once they're in combat. They need help getting there. ” Thats where a banner, Mist leviathan or Witchcraft come in?

  • DE General Discussion

    umbranar - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    I must say, deadly riposte for Judicators sounds like a nice rule for them to show their supreme fighting skills and I think it fits them.

  • DE General Discussion

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    For me the choice is pretty simpel, OG have that build in off 6, def 6 and agi 6. This means most other elites hit them on 4's while OG hit them on 3's. Agi 6 also means they strike first most of the time or at the same time as charging elites. But Smith has a good point and I haven't tried it yet. Div TL with know thy enemy and Outcast with witchcraft can make Judicators favourable. Although a perception of strength and/or Whispers of the Veil also work wonders for OG. I will give this a shot i…

  • DE General Discussion

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    Quote from DarkSky: “ "What changes do the Judicators need to make them a distinguished and relevant entry, less in direct competition with the OG?" ” I think they need some interaction with other units, preferably the Temple legates and/or Temple Militants or just any unit closeby in general. When the academy banner was a thing I took a unit of these guys and put the banner in them to synergize with other units. Right now they are on an island, with little to no synergy with the rest of the boo…

  • Quote from Grimbold Blackhammer: “WDG vs VS 16-4 MVP - big blocks of core that it took forever to chew through LVP - the hereditary spell ” Out of curiosity, what was the WDG list?

  • Isnt it stated otherwise as it sais, "This unit gains Undying Will untilthe start of your next Player Turn."?

  • So I encountered something weid: For UD, when a nomarch in a units dies, the unit loses Undying Will. Correct? Crown of the Pharaoh however stats: The bearer increases the range of its CommandingPresence by 6″. At the start of each of your PlayerTurns, the bearer may lose Undying Will until thestart of your next Player Turn and choose a friendlyunit within 12″. This unit gains Undying Will untilthe start of your next Player Turn. So even when the Nomarch dies, the unit keeps Undying Will, grante…

  • But Theoryhammer and discussing it is part of the fun, especially in the office

  • Time for more barrow legion?

  • Sounds like a job for a Battleshrine Evo Sorc with Veil Walker. Large+towering so LoS is no issue and Veilwalker voor extra range. The cannon/jezail shots might be a problem though.

  • With the low Dis, maybe the caskets see the light of day again.