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  • Just a quick reminder that we do have a thread for Rules questions: VS LAB Alpha Rules Queries

  • His examples were all in a vacuum, why not mine?

  • Well since we get to set the parameters... 23 Piranha Saurian Warriors, HW/S, FC. 447 points. Saurians charge. Legionaries fail their Disc 4 Fear test. Each are 7 wide. Legionaries get 5*7+1 attacks, 36. 12 hit because of Fear, 4 wounds AP 3. 19 Saurians 7 wide get 14+1+5 attacks. 16.67 hit due to Fear, 19.4 after Born Predator. 16.2 Wounds AP 1 results in 13.5 wounds. SA have 13.5/2 = 6.75 wounds + 2 ranks (7,7,5) + 1 charge + 1 banner = 10.75 VS have 4 wounds + 3 ranks + 1 banner = 8. Lose by …

  • Quote from Darock: “Do I get it right, that a General in a Unit with Eagle Standard works quite similar to a normal Battle Standard Bearer? Talking about the Reroll for Dis checks... not counting Except for the different Range, the missing CR and the missing possibility to buy a (second) magic standard in the unit [Which are quite some differences already] ” Why yes, when you ignore those 3 pivotal things, they are exactly the same Note that the General does not have to be in the unit for it to …

  • RAI, no. It's on the to-do list.

  • Quote from schaufelschwein: “ However, I am more than glad, that the arena beast finally has a fixed movement (although i will refuse to cut of a 10x100mm piece of my base) so that it doesnt fail a 5" charge because you roll 1,1,2 and can be used to terrorize other units.” The upgrade Underworld Beast give the Arena Beast 60x100 base and Random Movement. The Arena Beast without the upgrade is more analogous to a Chief riding a MRat.

  • It should still be 20x20, nothing in the weapon profile indicates a changed base size.

  • Mishap damage

    ValourUnbound - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)


    I ran a unit of 4 Jezails in my few test games. They would usually misfire once or twice a game and put a couple wounds on the unit. But with 3 HP each and Callous preventing panic, it wasn't too awful. They usually ended the game at about 75% strength.

  • Quote from Ondjage: “Why dont shadowfur stalkers have bloodpox blades instead of «Poison attacks*, paired weapons, *CC Only»? ” You're not the first one to notice that. We're working on it.

  • Quote from Karanadon: “Rules question about the Giant Rats... The Dire rat upgrade implies the whole unit is upgraded to dire rats, but the unit size is now 0-15, correct? Does that mean someone could take a unit with a single Dire rat for 83 points? If the upgrade is for some of the models in the unit (unit of 30, 15 of which are dire rats), doesn't the mismatching base sizes make that really awkward? Just really confused when I read it how it should be interpreted. EDIT: Is it just a typo? Sho…

  • Please post any questions about the rules in the VS LAB Alpha here. This might duplicate the general Rules Questions and Answers thread, but I'm more likely to read it here smile.png Off topic posts will be deleted.

  • Please post any typos or other layout errors in the VS LAB Alpha book here. Off topic posts will be deleted.

  • Guideline snippets:………91d49479cd120be2a2773e8ed Quote from Bogi: “But you created the guidelines and then based the created rules on these same guidelines, it seems that like it is one of wholistic product to me not separate ones and not one that you can then lean upon. ” Only if by "you" you mean the T9A project as a whole. RT created the guidelines, TT cr…

  • Let me check the guidelines. I believe there is something about "four legs bad, 16 legs good" (read: no cowboys, yes war platforms)

  • While I do agree with you, for clarity, I believe this section covers that possibility (Page 80, right before 21.A Universal Rules): XbpWgOna6BB5XSVd4KtgWtroEHl2vXbpWsNnK6BBpXTVd4JtgaurYEGlWvXb5euNXC6BhpUTld5J9gauLYGGlSuXb9dutbA6RpoUDld5Z1ga+DaGmhQuXb9dulaA6dr4B99RmaKYWXKnAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==

  • Quote from Alkasar: “ also why need make the Triumphal Platform Gigantic? army using numerous shooting models better not have wide gigantic infantry model. Especially if it joins most front defensive unit :)))) dont you think so? :)) ” Hey, people asked for anti-synergy, we delivered.

  • Quote from Alkasar: “ this idea have one problemBloodfur Commander with a Praetorian Palanquin is standart heigh model, so if it joins Fetthis Brutes (which are large), it could be targeted by shooting and spells, right? This not the way how one would like use character in the unit ” That is a typo! The 40x40 is supposed to be Large. That will be fixed before release. Which actually hurts his use in Standard Infantry units. I've highlighted that issue in my notes.

  • Looks like some of these were already answered, so I'll be brief. Splitting into two related categories: Quote from Alkasar: “- why no Rat Ogre mount with 40x40 base? whats your idea? why not give opportunity to lead basic Rat Ogre unit? - what about small Wheel (which called before Meat Grinder)? Also nice model and I dont see any choice for it - why no mount choice to Chief on Monstrous Rat? That's nice model choice from Forge World, its still producing. Also have similar model from Punga mini…

  • I was really excited so I tried them for three games. I guess it's been a long time since I've had access to great weapons because they... Didn't do a lot. Honestly the Swarm Priest with Swarm Master did more work. I'm sure they have good targets, but I must not have faced any. My next list was going to drop them, upgrade my Blackfurs to Bloodfurs and make some unit fillers for Without Numbered Legionaries.

  • This thread is clearly not being used as designed. I will be locking it for the next few hours while I decide the path forward.