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  • Quote from The Changing Constant: “I thought the average light infantry attachment was closer to 2 per list. This shows around 0.8, though the ratio has not changed. ” In 2020 I collected 254 EoS tournament lists for TA (there were probably some I missed though). My records show that there where 220 Light Infantry units taken altogether in 2020, so the average appears to have been 0.86 Light Infantry units per list if you want to look at it that way. This tournament has an average of 0.91. So it…

  • A few things that stick out to me: - IG GW versus shield usage is even - Crossbow and handgun usage are about the same as they had been pre-update despite crossbow nerf - Inquisitor cowboys are becoming very common. Half of the lists take some inspiration from Konrad's inquisitor lists - Knightly Orders are becoming the core unit of choice it seems with a strong preference for Cavalry picks. - Large units of Imperial Rangers are becoming very common - Prelates have a surprisingly low representat…

  • Marshals!! Below are the 12 EoS lists from the New Years Revolution Tournament. Below the lists I have some basic usage data. What thoughts do you all have on some of the first Post-Update EoS lists? (Hidden Content) Magic Item Data (Hidden Content) Character Data (Hidden Content) Army Data (Hidden Content)

  • Quote from Smythen: “So you slingshot them by having the BSB in there turn one, and they march 15" with banner of the relentless company and leave him behind? ” The BSB gains 15" march from the banner as he is part of the unit and he retains the 15" march for the rest of the movement phase whether he stays in the unit or not. So, you activate banner and have the BSB march out of the unit and join any bunker within 15" for him (pretty easy to do at the start of the game) and then you move the mil…

  • Quote from Dalinar: “hose militia with lightning reflexes are good for their price (I’m the poor sap who played DH against Nero). ” In that DH game I slingshotted the militia to assassinate Dalinar's organ gun and then used them as a chaff wall against some Clan Warriors with GWs. I wholeheartedly expected (and prepared for) the militia to fold to the stunties with big swords, but the militia actually won that first round of combat to both our surprise! I even failed to notice they were within 6…

  • Nerding with Nero

    Nerocrossius - - Empire of Sonnstahl (EoS)

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    Quote from wombat: “I see you are beginning to understand why I field the Foresight Engine. A pair of them with an Altar of Battle means that I can save points by fielding just a single Adept ( Know Thine Enemy and Ice & Fire ) with Book of Arcane Mastery. Surprisingly effective imho. ” Oh, don't get me wrong, I enjoy foresight engines in many other lists! I just had not thought to use them in this particular snowflake of a list I will say that generally I have a preference toward Shielding Engi…

  • Quote from subspace: “Allright, I've added your weird list to my "to test"-pile. Not sure how that is supposed to work and somehow it goes against all my list building principles but as you seem to make it work and I don't I guess that my principles must be faulty. EoS is weeeird... ” EoS is weird... it's one of the reasons I love it. If you get around to playing the list let us know your thoughts. I'm curious for more insight! It's tailored very much to my playstyles, so that might make it cumb…

  • Quote from Adaephon_Delat: “a) the results of your matches ” That's probably helpful information! I'll try to provide some very simple highlights. DH 19-1 Pinpoint shooting helped clear warmachines and other single model threats turn 1. Halberdiers grinded against two huge Dwarf blocks forever while I chaffed a deathstar and had Dragon, pegasus, knights, tank and flaggies clean up everything else before attacking the deathstar from all sides and eventually reinforcing the halberdiers (they were …

  • Over the last several days I have played the dragon list three more times against DH, WDG and new DE! This is what the list looks like currently: (Hidden Content) I decided to take @Adaephon_Delats advice and try a Foresight Engine. I've played shielding engines with this list before, but not foresight so I needed to try that out. Ultimately, after playing a bunch of games with different builds I think I actually like the foresight Engine better than the KotSG or other options for now (thanks fo…

  • I want to mention this again as it may have been lost in the shuffle, but the HR team has given staff members permission to share their thoughts and concerns in this public thread—please feel free to share your suggestions for the EoS gold update. I’m enjoying reading all of these! Please continue posting!

  • Quote from The Changing Constant: “The 2 griffon limit Units of 10 reiters going up 5 points ” Just to clarify, the only limit issue you have concerns with is the Great Griffon one and not the Knight Commander or Pegasus limits? Also do you mean the 5pt base increase to reiters? I don't think units of 10 were punished anymore than other sizes.

  • Quote from Mirdhynn: “Price between 2 types of arcane engines Price between great weapon option and shield one for IG ” Could you elaborate on how you want the prices to shift between these options? Increased gap? Narrowed gap? Quote from Hombre de Mundo: “My top 3 issues: 1) A simple shield for my marshal costs 10 bloody points 2) A simple shield for my Prelate costs 15 bloody points 3) The shields are too expensive!!!!1 ” Would you be okay with the base cost of the character increasing to make…

  • Marshals of the Empire!!! The Rules Team is looking to collect feedback on the 2020 balance update for each army in a structured and non-overwhelming way. Each ACS team has been tasked to collect a few big concerns that have come up within their communities since the release and then forward the results to the Rules Team for review. These are the guidelines the ACS teams are operating within: 1. How many issues can be raised? 3 per armybook. Each concern is a single unit, a single item, a single…

  • Can a model in base contact with an opposing character, which is joined to a R&F unit, distribute special attacks specifically onto the character rather than the rank and file (ie stomps, breath weapons, etc.)? Or do special attacks always go to rank and file? I’m pretty confident in my understanding, but I want to ensure that I’m not teaching other players incorrect things. Thank you all!

  • Quote from The Changing Constant: “My thought process is something like this: I could Prince Dragon + Parent Knight unit as strong point denial counter charge units in a gun line, but .... ” Sadly, you can't have a parent knight unit with an imperial prince (you can't have a KC general). So that hammers your point home even more. It's one of the greatest conundrums of Imperial prince. Quote from The Changing Constant: “I am not saying the Prince is not good or bad for his points right now, but h…

  • Quote from Adaephon_Delat: “Yeah I like that too. But somehow I miss a unit IG with GW, I am kind of married to this unit Thought about getting in some knights with cav Pick and flaming Banner in core for Halberd Block and ig with gw and small Ranger unit instead of Reiters and flaggies. But keep the engine (but Foresight ;-)) ” I understand, I feel married to flagellants in the same way A Knightly Orders dart with flaming standard could be good too. That might be a superior option even if it's …

  • Quote from Adaephon_Delat: “I can’t agree here. In my experience this built is one of the strongest Cowboys in the game. It's fast, with r5, as 1+ 5++ and 2+ against fire and distracting hard to kill and deals good damage with 9ap3 attacks especially with Magical or buff wagon Support. It's also easy to Cover with stank, buff wagons or kotsg. As a General it provides ld and orders in 18'' range. This guys had won me several matches. 465 is pretty cheap for that. Yeah 60 points is a lot for hh bu…

  • Okay, @Adaephon_Delat how about this: (Hidden Content) Something I'm excited to try with this is that Reiter champion and repeater pistol is only 15pts, which is the same number of shots as addition another Brace of Pistols reiter for half the price. Being a champion the unit could also combo charge with dragon to take a duel instead of the dragon. The arcane engine should bring the list closer to the big magic phases that are common right now, although channel 3 is significantly weaker than cha…

  • Quote from Jomppexx: “I think Griffon and Pegasus aren't great. On foot exactly with blacksteel is reasonable. The lack of armour is really the issue, Great Griffons are okay in general but I think they really want 2+ armour and a special save like the winter cloak. Pegasus lets you stack up to 1+ and with reasonable speed it's sort of like many other shieldbreaker builds, charge into cavalry and go ham as they are helpless against 1+ and you just cut through them with the sonnstahl like butter.…

  • I’m interested in Prince on pegasus with basalt infusion and volund’s shield. It can hide in KotSG against clipped wings stuff and then come out to fight specific targets. You can have it hang out around a Prelate on battle altar too. Similar thing with Great griffon prince with ghostly guard and volund’s shield—better damage, but more expensive and harder to hide. Prince on foot with blacksteel is interesting too. Either way, I’m excited that Prince is at least kind of in conversations now. In …