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  • Yeah, UD is on the shelves for now for me. I'll return the day I feel I can play what I love again

  • Quote from Folomo: “ Quote from Drakkanor: “Any idea on UD external balance positioning? ” From what I have heard, UD is middle of the road. ” Hmmm, that's not my feeling about them :p. Unless the middle of the road is that patch of grass nobody wants to drive on?

  • The problem is they asked: "the most underpriced". And then it's correct, although they are pretty fairly priced

  • Thanks for the info! No real surprises I guess? (Although it's not exactly my top 5 on either side, I can understand both ) I'll give my 2 cents on why the stuff it OP/UP; - Scroll of Desiccation: at 15 points it competes with 2 skeletons or very minor special items. Which means, it's easy to take if you have the points to spare. It never does something bad to you and can influence your opponent in major ways (especially SE). It has the benefit of saving you a Stalker's Standard on a chariot uni…

  • And maybe more important: do we have an idea where we are in the external spectrum?

  • Wow, I feel honored! Thanks for making my day! I'll tag my real life team members and friends! Without them, I wouldn't have been the player I am now: @Gregor @SmithF @Talandria @PrinceCharming @Mallak @strauss @Arthur @Chosen of Sigmar @Jaina @valmir @logick @Rothulf @bolard And any I might have forgotten xD

  • UD tournaments 2.2

    IHDarklord - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    This will he my next tryout: Undying Dynasties 485 - Death Cult Hierarch, General, Ark of Ages, Wizard Master, Divination 350 - Death Cult Hierarch, Ark of Ages, Wizard Adept, Evocation, Hierophant 290 - 3 Skeleton Chariots 290 - 3 Skeleton Chariots 215 - 20 Skeletons, Standard Bearer (Banner of the Entombed) 215 - 20 Skeletons, Standard Bearer (Banner of the Entombed) 140 - 5 Skeleton Scouts 170 - 2 Scarab Swarms, Underground Ambush 170 - 2 Scarab Swarms, Underground Ambush 310 - 4 Shabti Arche…

  • UD tournaments 2.2

    IHDarklord - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    Please give us hope we can double those numbers. You know, not to be OP and not to be broken or whatever. Not to be most played, but like have every UD player back on UD again. That would be cool . I don't want to have to fight to play what I like most :p

  • UD tournaments 2.2

    IHDarklord - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    I must admit.. I've been playing VS for a while now as my team dismissed UD. Seeing these lists really makes me want to play with them again .

  • If nothing substantial happens this 'patch', I predict 3 or fewer UD at ETC2021. We don't ask to be the strongest, but fun would be a nice starting point.

  • Quote from Slayer Zabojcow: “DL got 5++ for free?? Wow great! If this protection is free then I think their units are a little bit overpriced ” Equally overpriced as UD troops are due to the healing. EDIT: with that exception DL is considered a tier 1 army and UD somewhere between the very bottom and mid-bottom?

  • ^Zwei is correct. I predict a good solution in about 4 years when we get our LAB?

  • UD tournaments 2.2

    IHDarklord - - Undying Dynasties (UD)

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    It seems like a highly stable list you brought. How did the team use you during the pairing process?

  • I wholeheartedly agree! The Fall-update should only be point changes. No exceptions to that. Except maybe the changes during the previous Fall-updates, 'cause they already made an exception for that rule ofcours.

  • I agree somewhat, problem is we won't get any of those changes now :). Maybe if they get cheap enough, it doesn't matter too much they're glass cannon? For NG specifically, I'd like to see: - Min unit to 20 - Ress value to 4 - Shields base (or point decrease, but I think having base shields is probably less good, so easier to justify)

  • If only going by point costs: Things that could go down, in ranking of 'importance' - Necroguard additional models (~2ppm/~1ppm and cheaper weapon options) - Pharaoh (~20 points) - Core additional models (~1ppm, chariots ~10ppm) - Battle Sphinx (~30 points) - Sacred Hourglass (~20 points) - Dread Sphinx (~10 points) - Charnel Catapult (~10 points) - Book of the Dead (~10 points) - Tomb Reapers additional models (~20 ppm) - Tomb Harbinger (~15 points) Things that could go up, same ranking of 'imp…

  • By this time next year, there will be no UD players left in major tournaments. Which is good! Averages will show a clean 10-10 score for the non-played army!

  • Quote from Just_Flo: “So once again, where on the powerscale would UD need to stand for you to accept only minor changes and do you accept only the result of a poll of UD/ETC/random players or a data analyse involving all places or a combination of all of it for assigning a place to UD? ” Minor changes would require slightly below half on army level. I don't have a choice but to accept what is decided, whether I'll be happy with it is something else entirely. Quote from Just_Flo: “So would 30 pl…

  • I honestly just wondered if you were trolling, or honestly wanted to achieve something. Hypothesis are tested and tried, usually by talking with highly competitive people. I am not angry (I don't easely get angry), disappointed maybe a bit? Not in you personally, I don't know you personally so that would be weird. More disappointed that the same discussion has to go on for pages on pages when we basically had the same last year. If I took a poll among the top 200 players of the world right now a…

  • You've been asking a lot of questions. Allow me to ask one back: are you trolling?