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  • VS LAB Alpha Discussions

    xaby86 - - The Vermin Swarm (VS)

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    According to the BG, the weapon was made for the purpose of killing anything or just the Avatar of Sunna? If it is anything, it seems reasonable that it should be close to the current state. If it's just Sunna's avatar it could have MW1d6 only against models with Aegis, like UD's weapon, which would make the weapon not as destructive with dragons, giants and monsters are Aegis or it could have MW1d3 against Aegis and 1d6 against Supernal. Either way, AP could be lowered to AP3 or 4 to allow some…

  • @Sander Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you meant this. Quote from WarX: “I will repeat myself once again we need (if thinking of improving power level of DH army): 1. Miners 0-3 0-45 models. If there are 3 miners units we can make really hard preassure on secondary objectives. 2. Rangers 0-3 0-45 models. Same as miners. 3. Forge Wardens 0-3 0-45 models. Just for symmetry 4. Vengeance Seekers 0-3 / Grudge Busters 0-3. We need some target saturation of our toys. Neither VS, neither GB are strong enough …

  • Are perytons good flyers? I say this because if they were not as good as pegasus, something logical if they usually live in forests, they could lose Fly and have Devastating Charge (fly, adv10") and March on land of 16. This could serve to keep them from becoming too expensive.

  • LABS?

    xaby86 - - General Discussion

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    Just for the sake of completeness. WDG and DL as they are fully finished (known as Gold) , have their full background and artwork in the book (there is also a LAB Gold Slim version just rules) and ID although not yet Gold also has background and artwork quality that has nothing to envy to the GW books. Go to the download section and enjoy them. In addition, each LAB will bring some supplementary armies once the LAB is finished. This means that they are trying to develop a facet of the LAB that f…

  • LABS?

    xaby86 - - General Discussion

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    That's right, it's the book with the army adapted to the BG. T9A's own book independent of GW's legacy, although something may remain. The most optimistic official estimate or what the project would like to see is 4 LABs a year, but it's a difficult figure to achieve. I think a more realistic figure is 2 per year, with probably 1 or 2 more in the design phase for the following year. If you want to see the result of the LABs, you can look at WDG and DL, which are complete and unchanged (except po…

  • Quote from Mojzesz: “Copters are also standard size with 40x40 base from the top of my head. ” Yes, standard and tall

  • Quote from Sander: “@xaby86: why dont you share the required buffs for large combat miner and ranger blocks as discussed earlier in this thread? In my view re-introducing the feasibility of these picks create great gaming possibilities. other then that agree with your suggestions. Rune of swiftness to 0-2 or 0-3 was one of my favourite options for upgrades last year. The wider application of wisdom was chosen though. Still be happy to see it, but got the impression decisionmakers were not happy …

  • Oh, sorry, I thought you were being naive on purpose. I'm not against an army like you say in a future LAB, in fact I like it. I can see what "iron/old orc" themed lists can be built with units in the core with armour and crossbow and other Special options. But right now it feels counter-intuitive to try to put in a unit that is obviously inherited by the equipment, by the BG T9A. It's like a child's game of wooden blocks where you try to put a circular block through a triangular hole. Orcs with…

  • Hahaha, I'll pretend I don't notice that condescending curiosity. I've read enough of T9A to know that orcs are classified by age castes. Those age castes are the ones they're naming there. The unit that encompasses the Orc Crossbowmen is intermediate level, Heidi in this case, as a Core unit does not match the level of rarity required by "the oldest brood" nor does it seem to be any more "Calmer but unflinching in battle" than their fellow units of the same type.

  • I was hoping that this was referring to the Iron Orcs, not a Core unit which is supposed to be Heidi

  • It is interesting. I didn't expect him to be a peasant at first having Off4 and St4, in my mind that's Knight. I noticed it when someone said it. I see he has Aegis 6+ with the other attributes, I guess they will all have it the same, it would be very strange for peasants to have it and not knights. What I'm not convinced is that giving peasants an Aegis is the solution to make them playable, that would be very boring and unoriginal, but well, I guess maybe they're getting an Aegis that the moun…

  • Well, taking into account that DH has not yet reached a medium level, although it has improved a bit, I think we don't deserve nerfs, but some discounts and in this line would be the changes I would like to see, I don't know what most people think. I'll divide it into categories, just to express what I think needs priority or deserves a bigger discount than other things. High priority or an interesting discount: - Reduced cost of runes: Penetration, Steel, Retribution, Shielding, Dismay, Steadin…

  • don't worry, we don't bite. talk as if you were among friends.

  • I know, I meant to continue it. I think it's obvious that I failed hahaha maybe I should have put an emoji.

  • You had my like but in the end you lost it.

  • Quote from Omarcomin: “Didn't we get a redesign on the FWs last year and didn't the HBE book get 2-3 redesigns? Surely adding something innocuous like Weaponmaster might not be too extreme a redesign for this exercise? Buffs to rangers make me very nervous. I believe they are stealth OP. ” Well, that was an experiment in wish-based changes by the community and focused on limits and other restrictions. No rules were added and I'm not sure that something like that will be repeated, although I woul…

  • Quote from dan: “ -Greybeard TW decrease or price per unit. If they can’t have Weapon Master it’d still be cool to give them both a GW and shield (for a reasonable price) and a way they can choose at the beginning of a combat. ” I don't think giving rules is within the realm of possibility, so I'm afraid Weapon Master is not an option, but we could fight for some option to have GW and shield on the unit. What would be the best way to approach this? - make the unit have Shield initially - make th…

  • Well, what was your impression of what we achieved last year, was it good? What do you think DH should achieve?

  • I like your forecast, it will help us ACSs a lot.

  • No choice if you think 4 options is fine. I think 4 is a good number. The VS prefect of the house has 4, just keep it simple. If anything, I would remove the RS and make a separate model for him alone if he needs more space than the others.