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  • DE General Discussion

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    What about boosted increasing numbers? Eg Current is too weak, but if current was a 6+ cast it's actually reasonable Boosted then becomes 9+/10+ but D3+3 instead of D3+1 per veil The numbers (hits, str, casting value) need flexing but essentially just make the curse stronger.

  • DE General Discussion

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    I really like the design - a step in the right direction. It's not worth casting yet - 3 dice and 2 veil for 6 s4 hits is a waste of resources but the numbers can be flexed, the idea is a good one.

  • Models for the Dread Elves

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Hi @Lubart any plans for chariots?

  • The KOE one is fantastic, as is the OK one. Especially for armies that typically only take one caster as with the heirloom you can still have a relatively complete magic phase. The SE one is niche as is thr BH one by both have uses. The current DE one is literally a waste of dice. There is a reason the old DE one became a number 6 spell in a lore - it is that good For comparison, they can make the current DE one cast value 6 and it's still a complete waste of time and resources. The hereditary f…

  • its the worst hereditary spell in the game currently

  • I'm 11 games in with DE and have taken the hereditary 5 times. I have cast it 6 times total, all in one game where I cast it every turn on purpose to see if it was helpful. That was game 11 as I wanted to see it in action. I would have been better off swallowing the dice. My suggestion - scrap it and start again. It's literally a waste of dice for all the reasons mentioned in this thread. Would rather we either bring something back like chill wind - eg 3d6 s2 hits with ap3 or make it actually wo…

  • Scottish Champs - DE Lists

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    I was the other finisher on 64. Will post my updates later but essentially: It was my first games with Dark/Dread Elves in 5 years so I was rusty and played G1 poorly. I also failed 4/5 9 RR test in t3 to lose all my magic and 1900 points to panics which didn't help. I deserved to lose though so no complaints. G2: DE off. Hyper G rolled poorly, but I think i deoloyed in a way he almost certianly couldn't win the game. G3: DH. I rushed him and took off his army. Dragon ate alot of Dwarfs G4: VC. …

  • DE General Discussion

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    And for what it's worth, any army with access to a Bsb mage should have wizard masters as 'not a leader', unless DL as GDs are expensive. As otherwise its too easy to take the Wizard Lord general and then the Bsb mage to round out characters at c800 and have full functionality of most 1100 point setups

  • DE General Discussion

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    In case it wasn't obvious my allusion to background was facetious. As I said in my post, this isn't about that individual suggestion. The character section of the book is not working. If we just go with standard App/adept that works too. It helps to fix some of the major broken bits of the character section (sensible choice) while allowing others to be worked on. You're focussing on a throwaway suggestion that I'm happy to discard. As I'd suggested no IW for these guys so would be a direct -1 to…

  • DE General Discussion

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    If that is your read from my entire post then fill your boots. It fits the background (which is apparently where the rules come from!) but it should have a downside too. Perhaps for all Warlock characters their spells are 1 harder to cast

  • DE General Discussion

    Jal - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Part of the issue is here that individually the character options and magic options are OK. When trying to build an army, the jigsaw pieces do not fit. The indivual concepts are OK, but the execution for the book (top down big picture) is lacking. Prince: Without better mount options or any reason to field on foot will only ever seem some niche cowboy roles. Actual rules are OK but will not see play often. Beastmaster: Rules are cool but with only 150 worth of kit and only OK combat stats, not r…

  • Dan, I'll email you the pack as it has my personal details in as head ref

  • Models for Daemon Legions

    Jal - - Daemon Legions (DL)

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    Quote from Evoluo: “Good to hear. @Jal Would you say it good do the job for courtesan? Not really a fan of the "bigger and better" models GW is coming out with. Not to mention no time for painting them properly. I have a scylla affligam as my scourge (not much of a big figure either) Thanks for the quick replies guys! ” Not for me - lacks the dynamism I'd expect. I use this: QUEEN_Taipahn_F_Web_2000x.jpg

  • Models for Daemon Legions

    Jal - - Daemon Legions (DL)

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    fits a chariot base perfectly. I use one as a Hope Harvestor

  • I think your post 5 was the confusing part - the implication seemed to be that you felt Hoarders were the 'go to' competitive scoring from special. It looks like Alex, Rupert and I all read the same from your post, but it could be us misunderstanding the intent. I have no real view on Hoarders - other than I don't include them as if I want an anvil I take it from Core

  • (1) Lemures - Base unit up by 10, Roots to 3p per model. Brings small units into line with other core, but makes you pay for the best upgrade (2) Flies - I think small unit are fine. I would make additional models 110 and increase unhinging jaw to 5. (3) Glories - they are actually fine. Cloven hoofs should be 25pts and all the rest should drop (4) Threshing Engine: Drop base price by 15, increase Horde upgrade by 25 and Legion upgrade by 20. (5) I have no idea what Hellhounds are doing on this …

  • Quote from Gingersmali: “Quote from Jal: “Hoarders don't appear in the UK often in the top placing DL lists. ” Was this in response to my post? I think theres a big gap between appearing in top placing DL lists and needing a point reduction. Personally I think hoarders are in neither of these categories. ” Indeed. As has been stated by others in this thread - Hoarders are good, just not competitive as Lemures can do similar jobs from core

  • Hoarders don't appear in the UK often in the top placing DL lists.

  • England ETC and Lions squads 2021

    Jal - - England - Wales

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    (1) Mission Statement 20/21. I expect the England T9a team to focus efforts on winning the ETC and the Ashes. These are what we build for, and we should always aim to win. Other than the ETC, I’d like if possible England to send teams at minimum to WTC and 6N. This is obviously COVID dependant. During this pandemic period the expectation is that England submit at least 1 team to the major UB events we're able to participate in. The England T9a team should be visible and constructive in both the …