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  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from duxbuse: “its not a mathematic loss. using data from 1/1/2022 till now... ” wondering if you talk about the same DE. Obviously, @duxbuse talks about DE as they are played, i.e., if I understand well, few large units with maximised shooting or similar. I feel that @Nico talks about DE as they should be played, i.e. MSU or MMU in one of the three preferred themes, academy, monsters or cults, but these builds are so RPS that they actually are not used in tournaments. Said as a reader of …

  • ... and Teclis was personally a participant in more than half of the games where HE were present.

  • To me, low fantasy is a familiar world with little changes. That's what you get in most actual medieval legends, including with fays, magic weapons, mighty knights killing dragons, miracles etc. There may be feys, dwarves and elves, magic weapons and spells, but in moderation. For most of it, the world is predictable, laws of physics apply with little exceptions. I rate Tolkien world as rather low fantasy. Reversely, to me, high fantasy describes worlds which can only be described, not explained…

  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from berti: “back in 8th edition of warhammer there were 2 cults, each with one or two dedicated units and the chariots and char. I need to look back into the old book what else was cult related. Was some time ago I last looked into the GW book. ” Sorry but no. WH7 and WH8 army books had only one cult, the cult of Khaine. The Cult of Slaanesh was introduced in a WH6 supplement for Storm of Chaos campaign, published in 2004, which disappeared with WH7 DE. Please give credit to T9A to have i…

  • Western hemisphere herds hardly ever meet Easter hemisphere herds. It makes sense that Western hemisphere talk has some affinity with local native language, because this is what they are. In the Eastern hemisphere, there are beasts deriving from different cattle: the ones living in Taphria deriving from local antilopes, the ones living in Augea derived from local buffaloes, and the ones living in Vetia are the ones we happen to know best. It makes sense that it would make different linguistic gr…

  • Quote from Chronocide: “Cattle-only really limits what I can do with the army. ” Actually, from a common cattle origin, BH soothsayers are able to create beasts which don't look much like cattle anymore: gargoyles, centaurs, biar beasts, gortach, cyclops, they all have cattle as ancestors at some point. Please keep your creativity as exuberant as the BH soothsayers .

  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from rolan: “Because we use those rules for tournament play, an army concept that will not win will not be used. So I want to discuss why the team invalidated existing playstyles, and I did not overreact. ” Do you rate that DE playstyles relying on heavy magic or avoidance shooting were tournament-competitive under the previous rules?

  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from rolan: “Quote from Calisson: “These playstyles were not optimised in old AB, no problem if it becomes worse with the new LAB... These non-optimised playstyles may be played still, with no expectation to have a good result. ” So the old book could be used to play heavy magic or avoidance shooting, as you said not optimised but possible. Why is it Ok to annihilate those options? Who says armies must be excluded from certain playstyles to be different from each other? ...I f not, I don't…

  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Klaudel: “What we see in the process of DE LAB is a significant change of army playstyle which is a result of following the guidelines: - DE should be... etc. ” That's a bit reductive. Like every LAB army, DE are supposed to excel in not one, but three different themes, which are here: - cults - academy - beastmasters. All the players who used to play with one of these thees should remain happy to play with the new DE, using mostly the same models as before, although a playstyle shift…

  • Quote from denelian5: “- Are BH really only comprised of cattle based, horned individuals? ” Yes. Not strictly limited to bovidae, though, but all are ruminant-based.

  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Eol: “I miss Calisson un the list of responsibles ” Thank you but that would not have been appropriate. All my playing skills dating from the old DRAICH times are gone, I am helpless for the rules. And deliberately, I don't want to influence the team about the background of the army I'm most invested in. Well, still, I confess that I did push for the corsair supplement to exist, and I provided some advice on the fleet's aesthetics.

  • Quote from Peacemaker: “All beastherds use body language, as well as basic grunts/growls as lingua franca with pretty much all other beasts on the planet. Especially other beastherds who haven't had contact and who's language has diverged ” Beasts originate indeed from different cattle species, according to which in found in various continents. They definitively need a natural lingua franca, spoken instinctively, on top of which local language would provide nuances.

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  • DE General Discussion

    Calisson - - Dread Elves (DE)

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    Quote from Babnik Kalenina: “DE was extremely underpowered back at 6th edition, some veterans should remember. @Calisson do you remember that era? ” I was so tired of losing stupidly, couldn't figure out how to beat my own children at the game with the official rules. However, IIRC, during a worldwide gaming campaign, there had been a competition between factions, and somehow, the DE managed to win the right to keep official the fixes made for the competition, which included Slaaneshi variants t…

  • Masterwired's Old Style Battle Report Done, you've hit the News!

  • @VisconteDimezzato please see the OP. The following reactions indicate that it would we worth some news.

  • Quote from eldan: “More fun coming up! A class action lawsuit is being drafted by several small publishers. ” Another reason for us not to overreact. Wait and see.

  • Very clearly, no problem to take donations, as long as the download is not conditional to a donation.

  • Thanks, that's the first time I come across such a full document. To note, none of the intended hyperlinks work, showing that it is not yet "the" document, despite it looks authentic (less the links). Anyway, assuming it is close enough to "the" document, we are clearly in the non-commercial part: If you are going to use SRD content to make tabletop roleplayinggames and game supplements on a noncommercial basis, the OGL: Non-Commercial applies. The only constraint I see for uor team is that we n…

  • Is this coming from an official WotC source? Where is the full document? An extract of an uncertain document is not worth spending much time.